Prabhupada:

drṣṭva taṁ kama-liptena
bahuna parirambhitaṁ
jagama hrc-chaya-vasaṁ
sahasaiva vimohitaḥ;
[SB 6.1.61]

So in the morning we shall speak in Hindi for the foreign students. In the evening there will be Hindi. Morning, seven up to eight or little more, and similarly in the evening.

So we are talking about Ajamila. He was a nice brahmaṇa boy executing the duties of a brahmaṇa, but one day, when he was passing, he saw one sudra and one sudraṇi embracing, kissing, talking, laughing—all lusty affairs. So it is mentioned here, sudra.

ekadasau vanaṁ yataḥ;
pitr-sandesa-krd dvijaḥ;
adaya tata avrttaḥ;
phala-puṣpa-samit-kusan
[SB 6.1.58]

Dadarsa kaminaṁ kañcic chudram. Sudram. This business on the public way, kissing, embracing, this is meant for the sudras. Therefore it is said, kalau sudra-sambhavaḥ;: "In the Kali-yuga the population is all sudra." There is no brahminical culture. Brahminical culture means sama, dama, controlling the mind, controlling the senses. A real brahmaṇa will never agree to embrace the opposite sex in public way. No. That is not brahmaṇa's business. He has been trained up how to become controller of the mind, controller of the senses. That is the first business of a brahmaṇa. Sama, dama, satyam. He is truthful, saucam, clean, thrice taking bath. So you should always... You are given the chance of becoming brahmaṇa. You should not become again sudras or mlecchas or caṇḍalas. Be careful. This is brahmaṇa business. If we again come back to caṇḍalas or sud... Caṇḍala means less than the sudras. Even sudras, they eat meat under control. But caṇḍalas, they eat meat without any control. So just like in the Vedic society, although there are meat-eaters, they would eat meat after offering sacrifice to Goddess Kali. Restriction. Restriction. Because if you eat meat from the slaughterhouse there is no restriction. You can go and purchase at any time. But if you follow the scriptural regulation, they say, "Yes..." It is restriction. It is indirectly saying, "Don't eat," but because this less intelligent person will not be able to understand, therefore they are given some permission under certain restriction. This is restriction, that "If you want to eat meat, then you must offer sacrifice to Goddess Kali and then you can." And the Goddess Kali is worshiped once in a month. That means by restriction he will come to his senses; he will give it up. So sudra, up to sudra, there is possibility of raising him. Although he can see ideal character, it is not that anyone be ideal character like a brahmaṇa. That is not possible. But still, in the society there must be an ideal person who is actually brahmaṇa.

So sudra... This kind of business on the public street... Just like cats and dogs, they have sex pleasure without any shame on the street. Similarly, the sudras, they embrace the opposite sex in the public street, and sometimes they have got sex also. I have seen in the Western countries—without any shame... So he saw, this brahmaṇa boy. The brahmaṇa boy saw. He is young man. Although he is qualified with the brahmaṇa... Not exactly qualified; otherwise he would not have fallen. He was on the neophyte stage. Therefore we restrict, "No illicit sex." Completely forbidden. Otherwise it will be very difficult to keep oneself in the brahminical standard and make spiritual progress. Without being in the platform of brahmaṇa, you cannot make any spiritual progress. That is not... A sudra, a vaisya... But they can be trained up. Therefore Krṣṇa said,

maṁ hi partha vyapasritya
ye 'pi syuḥ; papa-yonayaḥ;
striyo sudras tatha vaisyas
te 'pi yanti paraṁ gatim
[Bg. 9.32]

In Krṣṇa consciousness, a sudra, a caṇḍala, the lowborn, he can be elevated to the highest stage of Vaiṣṇava. Vaiṣṇava is higher stage than brahmaṇa.

So this boy, Ajamila, he was passing, he saw that the sudra was embracing another sudraṇi. Drṣṭva taṁ kama-liptena. When he saw that this man and woman is embraced with one another with lusty desire... Embracing woman or man, this is kama, lust. There is no question of any other thing. Kama-liptena. Drṣṭva taṁ kama-liptena bahuna. The man was embracing the woman, and the woman was embracing, pari-liptena, very closely attached, and everything was going on. Then... We have got lusty desires. Everyone's heart... Hrd-roga-kama. The material world means there is a heart disease which is called kama, hrd-roga-kama. So hrc-chaya-avasam. If we... This is called impetus. If I see one engaged in lusty or sex affairs, naturally my sex desire also becomes awakened. Even though I am trying to control in the neophyte stage, still, if I see in my front something, lusty affairs, naturally I will be inclined to such. Therefore it is called avasam. He was student, brahmacari, practicing sama, dama, satyam, saucam. He was not very old man; he was young man. But he could not control. Therefore it is said hrc-chaya-avasam. Avasam sahasaiva: "all of a sudden," vimohitam, "he became very much attracted."

So this is the social condition. If in society we have no restriction, then naturally those young boys and girls, they will be inclined. And as soon as one is sexually inclined, he forgets all other culture and gradually becomes down fallen, as you will see from the life of Ajamila. Although he was trained up... So similarly, this is a warning to our students that they are learning how to become Krṣṇa conscious. It is very difficult job. To become Krṣṇa conscious is not very easy thing. But by the grace of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, we are trying to teach that, and it is becoming effective. Otherwise how you all European and Americans can give up these four sinful activities? So try to preserve. And it can be preserved only by remaining in the devotional service. It can be. Sa guṇan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate [Bg. 14.26].

maṁ ca vyabhicariṇi
bhakti-yogena ya sevate
sa guṇan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]

As soon as you come on the platform of Brahman, brahma-bhutaḥ; prasannatma na socati na kaṅkṣati [Bg. 18.54], then you will be able to. Otherwise you will not be able to. If you don't come on the transcendental platform, then you will not be able to.

So we have to stick to these principles to keep ourselves on the transcendental platform, rising early in the morning, offer maṅgala arati, then gradually, one after another, attending class, guru-puja, and so on, so on. Up to till you go to bed, you should always be engaged. Then you will be above these three guṇas. Just like this boy, Ajamila. He is attracted because all of a sudden he fell down on the platform of passion. There are three platforms: sattvic, rajasic, tamasic. So if you keep yourself on the sattvic platform, there is also chance to falling down on the passion and ignorance. But if you keep yourself in the suddha-sattva platform... Suddha-sattva platform means devotional service. Sattvaṁ visuddhaṁ vasudeva-sabditam. Suddha platform means... That is called vasudeva. As Vasudeva can beget a child whose name is Krṣṇa, similarly, if you keep yourself on the vasudeva platform, sattvaṁ visuddhaṁ vasudeva-sabditam, then Krṣṇa will take birth. Krṣṇa will take birth. So our these rules and regulation, restriction, means to keep one on the vasudeva platform. We should remember always that. And if you keep yourself on vasudeva platform, these things will not entice you. Otherwise we shall be enticed and fallen down. Agama hrc-chaya-vasaṁ sahasaiva vimohitaḥ;.

Sometimes we go to hear or see rasa-lila. But unless we are advanced in spiritual consciousness, this hearing of or seeing some rasa-lila, sometimes it brings us down. If one is actually seeing rasa-lila, the result will be hrd-roga-kamam apahinoty acireṇa dhiraḥ;. This is the injunction in the Srimad Bhagavatam. If one has actually heard from a realized person about vikriḍitam idam vraja-vadhubhir viṣṇoḥ;, Viṣṇu and vraja-vadhu, the gopis, vikrtam, their lila, their pastime Sraddhanvita anusrṇuyad atha varṇayed yaḥ;. One who is actually advanced in spiritual consciousness, sraddhanvita, anusrṇuyat, and hears from the realized person—anu, anu means parampara, not from ordinary person, professional reciter, but from a realized person—the result will be hrd-roga-kamam apahinoti. Then the, our natural lusty desires will disappear. That is the result. But in spite of disappearing our, this lusty desire, if we increase our lusty desire, that means we are spoiling our life. Therefore it is forbidden that neophyte students, they should not indulge in these affairs of rasa-lila. You should be very careful. People are very much accustomed to see rasa-lila in Vrndavana. Maybe they are advanced, but the test is whether he has given up his lusty desire. That is the test. If he has given up, then, after seeing rasa-lila, he should not have returned to home. My Guru Maharaja used to say, "Do not go to Vrndavana with return ticket." So therefore it is very confidential. There are ten cantos in Bhagavatam. Nine cantos are devoted to understand Krṣṇa, nine cantos. Then tenth canto begins. Then Krṣṇa's birth and pastimes are mentioned there. So we should not jump over the tenth canto all of a sudden. People are very much anxious to jump over the tenth canto. No. Tenth canto is the mukharavinda. It is the face of Krṣṇa, smiling. But Krṣṇa worship begins from the lotus feet of Krṣṇa. Nobody offers flowers and tulasi on the face of Krṣṇa. They offer on the feet. That is the beginning, the first and second canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, two lotus feet. So we have to go by and by. And when we are actually experienced devotional servant, then you try to understand the tenth canto. This is the way. Otherwise there may be fall down, as this Ajamila fell down. He was neophyte, and as soon as he saw the sudra and sudraṇi embracing, he became victmized.

So we should be very... Brahmacari, there are so many restrictions. Even to see woman—"A beautiful woman is going, let me see"—that is also forbidden. That is also subtle sex enjoyment. Gross and subtle, there are so many subtle sex enjoyments—to think of woman, to see a beautiful woman going on the street, or to talk about woman, to read about woman. There are eight kinds of subtle sexual intercourse. So it is restricted. But in the Kali-yuga it is very difficult to follow all the rules and regulation. One is not trained up. Even up to ripe old age, one becomes attracted by beautiful women. Especially in the Western countries. I have seen in Paris, old man, seventy-five years old, eighty years old, they are going to the brothel. They are going to the night club. They are purchasing ticket to enter into the club-fifty dollars. Then they have to pay for the woman and wine and everything. In this way...

So hrd-roga-kama, this hrd-roga, hrc-chaya, is a heart disease. It is very, very difficult to avoid unless one is fully Krṣṇa conscious. And that is stated by Yamunacarya:

yadavadhi mama cettaḥ; krṣṇa-padaravinde
nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyataṁ rantum asit
tadavadhi bata nari-saṅgame smaryamane
bhavati mukha-vikaraḥ; suṣṭu niṣṭhivanaṁ ca

This is the test. Yadavadhi krṣṇa-padaravinde. "Since I have learned how to take transcendental bliss from the lotus feet of Krṣṇa..." He is explaining. He was an emperor. He had ample opportunity of enjoyment, material enjoyment. He was enjoying it. But he said, "Since I have become Krṣṇa conscious and I am taking pleasure in Krṣṇa consciousness, from that time," bata nari-saṅgame smaryamane, "whenever I think of enjoying with woman, I spite on it." This is the test. This is the test, how I am becoming advanced. You do not require any certificate from anyone. You can learn yourself. Just like when you are eating, you do not require any certificate from others, "Whether I am feeling all right?" Eating means you are hungry, so if you eat, you will feel satisfied. Your hunger will be satisfied. You will be getting strength. These are the symptoms that have eaten. Similarly, when you'll no longer be attracted by this sex desire, then you should understand that "I am now making progress in Krṣṇa consciousness." This is the test.

So this boy became victimized. Although he was under training, he was not completely fit. Therefore he fell victimized by seeing this affair, lusty affairs. So at that time might be one or two cases. Now the whole world is full with all of these lusty desires, especially in the Western country. Here also now it has come. No more they are following the Vedic principles. But it is not so deteriorated as in the Western countries, and so we should be very, very careful. Not only... Simply becoming careful will not. We must advance in Krṣṇa consciousness, and that is very easily done by chanting Hare Krṣṇa mantra. If you keep yourself always engaged in chanting Hare Krṣṇa, Hare Krṣṇa, Krṣṇa Krṣṇa, then it will be... Ceto-darpaṇa-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. This is hrc-chaya-vasam. The lusty desire is a disease of the heart. It is... Practically it has no value. So therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, ceto-darpaṇa-marjanam. They cleanse the heart with all dirty things. Ceto-darpaṇa-marjanam. How? Paraṁ vijayate sri-krṣṇa-saṅkirtanam. This is confirmed in Bhagavatam, kirtanad eva krṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ; paraṁ vrajet [SB 12.3.51] Simply by chanting, you can keep. If you follow the rules and regulation and chanting, then you will not be victimized. You'll make your progress without any fear.

Thank you very much. Hare Krṣṇa. (end)

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