Pradyumna: "It was by Droṇacarya's mercy that you learned the military art of throwing arrows and the confidential art of controlling weapons."

Prabhupada:

sarahasyo dhanur-vedaḥ;
savisargopasaṁyamaḥ;
astra-gramas ca bhavata
sikṣito yad-anugrahat
[SB 1.7.44]

This is also another Vedic civilization, that if you are benefited by somebody, you should always remain obliged to him. Sikṣito yad-anugrahat. There is one Bengali proverb, guru-mara-vidya. "Guru, you learn from him first of all, then kill him. Don't care for guru." This is demonic. By the grace of guru you learn something. Then when you learn something, then you become greater than him, don't care for guru. This is demonic. Even if you have learned something, you must feel always obliged, ataḥ; padarsayat(?).

So this is Vedic civilization. Draupadi advising Arjuna that "You have learned. Feel always obliged," ataḥ; padarsayat. So this is Vedic... "This military art, by his grace, by guru's grace, now you are expert in the science of military art. And suppose his son has committed some sinful activity. You cannot punish him, retaliate, so that guru's family will be aggrieved." This is Vedic culture. Not only he is personally, but in his absence, his wife, his family, you should consider them. So there is nothing about... What is the purport? Read.

Pradyumna: "Dhanur-veda or military science, was taught by Droṇacarya with all its confidential secrets of throwing and controlling by Vedic hymns. Gross military science is dependent on material weapons, but finer than that is the art of throwing arrows saturated with Vedic hymns, which act more effectively than gross material weapons like machine guns or atomic bombs. The control is by Vedic mantras, or the transcendental science of sound. It is said in the Ramayaṇa that Maharaja Dasaratha, the father of Lord Sri Rama, used to control arrows by sound only. He could pierce his target with his arrow by hearing the sound only, without seeing the object. So this is a finer military science than that of the gross material military weapons..."

Prabhupada: It is called sabda-vedi. He who... Just like I cannot see where is the bird. He's chirping. But sabda-vedi, I can throw wherever the bird is, it will go and kill. That is called sabda-vedi. Maharaja Dasaratha used it. Therefore he was cursed that he would die being aggrieved when Ramacandra will be banished. Go on.

Pradyumna: "So this is a finer military science than that of the gross military military weapons used nowadays. Arjuna was taught all this, and therefore Draupadi wished that Arjuna feel obliged to Acarya Droṇa for all these benefits. And in the absence of Droṇacarya, his son was the representative. That was the opinion of the good lady Draupadi. It may be argued why Droṇacarya, a rigid brahmaṇa, should be a teacher in military science. But the reply is that a brahmaṇa should become a teacher, regardless of what his department of knowledge is. A learned brahmaṇa should become a teacher, a priest and a recipient of charity. A bona fide brahmaṇa is authorized to accept such professions."

Prabhupada: So there is nothing especial to be explained. The only important part of this verse is, that don't learn guru-mara-vidya. Even if you become more learned that your guru, you should not exhibit it before your guru. You should always remain a fool number one. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu showed Himself by His example. Guru more murkha dekhi 'karila sasana [Cc. Adi 7.71]. Caitanya Mahaprabhu was not murkha, but He has taught us that before guru, we shall always remain a murkha. That is advancement. Not that "I know more than guru. I don't care for guru. Now give me blessing that I can find out some better guru." This nonsense, if you don't find... If your guru is not perfect, then why you are asking blessing to find out another?

So anyway, this guru-mara-vidya should be avoided. That is the instruction in this verse we can get, and that is the Vedic way. It is not that Draupadi is speaking, but Caitanya Mahaprabhu is also speaking... Caitanya Mahaprabhu was very strict on this point. As soon Vallabhacarya spoke that "I have written a better comment than Sridhara Svami," immediately Caitanya Mahaprabhu become offended. He said, "Oh, you have become more than Sridhara Svami? You don't care for Svami?" So he remarked immediately, svami yei jana na mane vesyara bhitare. That is the system. You cannot overrule acarya. Acarya... Acaryopasanam. Acarya should be always worshiped. Even if you, by ABCD, you have become more learned than the acarya... That is not possible, but if you foolishly think like that, still, you should not exhibit your foolishness, that you know more than the acarya. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's... By His life example, He has taught us that the more we remain ignorant, foolish before the acarya, or before the guru, that is more we advance. Real success is how one is faithful to his guru. That is real success. Yasya deve para bhaktir yatha deve tatha gurau. It is not by education or grammatical knowledge you can learn anything. No. It is by the grace of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And that grace comes down through the grace of guru. That grace also does not come directly. We should not be neglecting this point.

yasya deve para bhaktir
yatha deve tatha gurau
tasyaite kathita hy arthaḥ;
prakasante mahatmanaḥ;
[SU 6.23]

Things become revealed by devotion, not by so-called education. No. Ciraṁ vicinvan. Na canya eko 'pi ciraṁ vicinvan, prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi [SB 10.14.29]. By little prasada, satisfaction... In many places these things are stated. Yat karuṇya-katakṣa-vaibhavavataṁ gauram eva stumaḥ;. Karuṇya-katakṣa. Not complete karuṇya, but katakṣa, simply little glancing, he becomes so great, kaivalyaṁ narakayate tridasa-pur akasa...

Therefore Visvanatha Cakravarti Ṭhakura says, yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadaḥ; **. Not that bhagavat-prasada is achieved by education and grammar. No. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadaḥ; **. By the mercy of guru one can achieve. That is just like a common word, "If you love me, love my dog." So you cannot approach Krṣṇa without loving His dog, His servant. Sataṁ prasaṅgat. A person who is trying to distribute the message of Krṣṇa, he is very, very dear dog of Krṣṇa. Na ca tasman manuṣyeṣu kascin me priya-krttamaḥ; [Bg. 18.69]. He is very... It doesn't matter how far he is advanced in education, how far he has learned grammar. These are not the things. The things is how far he is working to carry out the mission of Krṣṇa. Then one has to receive Krṣṇa's mercy through the bona fide servant. Krṣṇa cannot be bluffed by so-called education and grammar. Krṣṇa is not so... Bhaktya mam abhijanati [Bg. 18.55]. He never says "By grammar or by education one can understand." Never says. Bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvataḥ;. We should be educated, we should be very careful, but real thing is bhakti. Anyabhi... Bhajate mam ananya-bhak, sadhur eva sa mantavyaḥ; [Bg. 9.30]. Api cet su-duracaraḥ;. Many places it is said. Tad-vag-visargo janatagha-viplavo yasmin prati-slokam abaddhavaty api [SB 1.5.11]. Even a bhakta writes something which is not very grammatically, rhetorically correct... Tad-vag-visargo janatagha-viplavaḥ;, namany anantasya yaso 'ṅkitani yat. But because he has tried to broadcast the glories of the Lord, even not in perfect language, that is his qualification.

tad-vag-visargo janatagha-viplavo
yasmin prati-slokam abaddhavaty api
namany anantasya yaso 'ṅkitani yat
srṇvanti gayanti grṇanti sadhavaḥ;
[SB 1.5.11]

The sadhus, they are not interested about rhetorical or grammatical adjustment. The sadhu wants to see who has spoken. If he's a Vaiṣṇava, then his word will be accepted. Caitanya Mahaprabhu strictly prohibits that is one is not a Vaiṣṇava, don't hear from him. Avaiṣṇava-mukhodgirṇaṁ putaṁ hari-kathamrtam, sravaṇaṁ naiva kartavyam. "But he's such a learned man," or "He's writes so nicely, correctly." But because he's not Vaiṣṇava, one should not hear from him. "Why? It is so nicely written." No. Sarpocchiṣṭaṁ yatha payaḥ;. Milk is very good food, everyone knows. But as soon as it is touched by the lips of a serpent, it is poison immediately. Therefore it is forbidden. And one who has no knowledge how to respect guru, how he can become Vaiṣṇava? Chaḍiya vaiṣṇava-seva nistara payeche keba, Narottama dasa Ṭhakura says. If you don't become a faithful servant of Vaiṣṇava, there is no possibility of your liberation. Chaḍiya vaiṣṇava-seva nistara payecha keba. Taṅdera caraṇa-sevi-bhakta-sane vasa, janame janame haya ei abhilaṣa. This is Narottama dasa Ṭhakura's... Our determination should be to serve the previous guru and acarya. Evaṁ parampara-praptam [Bg. 4.2]. That is our determination. Taṅdera caraṇa-sevi. Our service... Not directly Krṣṇa. Because to serve Vaiṣṇava is more than serving Krṣṇa directly. Mad-bhakta-pujabhyadhika [SB 11.19.21]. Krṣṇa likes that. He doesn't accept anyone's service directly. That is a gross mistake. Therefore Narottama dasa Ṭhakura is teaching us... [break] ...trying to become one with Krṣṇa or one with the gopis. These are all Mayavada philosophy. Taṅdera caraṇa-sevi. You have to serve the servant of Krṣṇa, tad bhrtya dasa-dasa-dasanudasaḥ; [Cc. Madhya 13.80]. That is the way. Not directly.

So here Draupadi is reminding that, yad-anugrahat sikṣito bhavata: "You are neglecting his, satisfying him. Do you think if you kill his son he'll be satisfied? Maybe his son is a criminal from all points of view; still, ultimately, if you kill his son he'll be aggrieved. That is natural. That is natural." There was... In Allahabad, it is our practical experience. Two brothers, all of a sudden, they became angry. They fought one another. One brother was killed. The anger is so dangerous. So naturally, in the court he was ordered to be hanged. Then the father appealed to the court that "My one son is already killed, and the other remaining son, if he is also killed, then what will be my condition?" So court considered this proposal, and the boy was ordered to be killed, he was saved. Yes. So this consideration is there even in ordinary way. And actually, these sons were rogues. They fought, one is killed, another is going to be killed. But this old man will be finished. The court considered it, and he was saved. He was not hanged. He was given some long duration of imprisonment. That we have seen. The same thing, the affection is everywhere. So Draupadi is giving the best instruction, that "By the mercy of Droṇacarya you have learned this art, and now this art you are going to use for killing his son? What is this logic?" Very good argument.

A similar argument was given by Duryodhana to Droṇacarya. Droṇacarya and this Draupadi's father, they became inimical. So he got a son, Uttara. No? Anyway, that son was meant for killing Droṇacarya. And at the same time, that son was a student of Droṇacarya in the art of military science. So Duryodhana reminded Droṇacarya that "This son, Viraṭa, Viraṭa Maharaja's son, He is meant for killing you, and you have foolishly taught him the military science. Now he's using the military science to kill you." So there are so many instances like that. Sometimes this art, guru-mara-vidya, is done by rascals and fools. That should not be done. That is instruction from every practical point of view.

Thank you very much. Hare Krṣṇa. (end)

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