Prabhupada:

asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te
jagad ahur anisvaram
aparaspara-sambhutaṁ
kim anyat kama-haitukam
[Bg. 16.8]

So we are discussing for the last few days about the asuras, demons. (aside:) Stop. So the beginning is, na saucaṁ napi cacaro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. The asuras, they are asuci, unclean. That is their misfortune, that they cannot understand what is the right way, what is the wrong way. So suci, cleanliness, is the first qualification of the daiva-prakrti or devatas. There are two classes of men. One class is devata, and the other class asura. So asura class, they will have to suffer. They cannot get liberation from the material bondage. Muḍha janmani janmani mam aprapya eva [Bg. 16.20]. Unless we achieve the shelter of the lotus feet of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, our sufferings in the material world will continue. It will not stop. We are trying to stop all kinds of suffering by adjustment of this material world. That is not possible. That is stated in the sastra. Durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninaḥ; [SB 7.5.31]. Durasaya, hopeless.

Big, big asuras like Ravaṇa, he also wanted to be happy himself and others by material adjustment. He proposed that "There is no need of acting piously to go to the heavenly planet. I shall construct a staircase so anyone can go." Ravaṇera svargesvari. So that was failure. Just like we are now trying, the modern scientists. We are trying to go to the moon planet. It is failure. They will never be able to go there. I have discussed this point. We are conditioned. We cannot live one place to another without being proficient or without being eligible. Just like even in this planet you cannot go to the other country. Suppose from India if we want to go to America, it requires arrangement, not that all of a sudden you can go to America or the Americans come here. There is international arrangement, visa, passport, immigration, so many things. So many obstacles are there even in this planet, and what to speak of going to other planet. It is not possible. You must be efficient; then you can go. That we get information from the Bhagavad-gita

yanti deva-vrata devan
pitṝn yanti pitr-vrataḥ;
bhutani yanti bhutejya
yanti mad-yajino 'pi mam
[Bg. 9.25]

So in this life you have to prepare yourself. Then you can go to the higher planetary system.

urdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-stha
madhye tiṣṭhanti rajasaḥ;
jaghanya-guṇa-vrtti-stha
adho gacchanti tamasaḥ;
[Bg. 14.18]

You can go, sarva-ga. Every living entity can go wherever he likes but he must fulfill the condition because we are in the conditional state. The material world means we are conditioned. So in order to be eligible to go to the higher planetary system like moon planet and others, we must be efficient to prepare ourself. So that preparation means the more you become situated in the sattva-guṇa, saucam. Satyaṁ saucam, the brahminical qualification, arjavam astikyam, jñanaṁ vijñanam astikyaṁ brahma-karma svabhava-jam [Bg. 18.42]. Unless you acquire the qualities of sattva-guṇa, you cannot go even in the higher planetary system, what to speak of going beyond the universe. Beyond the universe, beyond this, there are Vaikuṇṭhaloka, or the Brahmaloka, brahmajyoti. Then topmost is the Goloka Vrndavana. But you can go there. Krṣṇa says, mad-yajino 'pi yanti mam [Bg. 9.25]. If you prepare in this life, then you can go there. There is no impediment. Simply you have to be purified. This bhakti-marga is the process of purification.

sarvopadhi-vinirmuktaṁ
tat-paratvena nirmalam
hrṣikeṇa hrṣikesa-
sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate
[Cc. Madhya 19.170]

If we want to go to Vaikuṇṭha planet or Goloka Vrndavana planet, beyond this material sky... That is... There is another sky. Paras tasmat tu bhavaḥ; anyaḥ; avyakto 'vyaktat sanatanaḥ; [Bg. 8.20]. These informations are there in the Bhagavad-gita. There is another sky which is called paravyoma. That is spiritual sky. That spiritual sky is eternal. When everything is annihilated within this material sky, that remains eternally. That is called sanatana-dhama. So sanatana-jiva, sanatana. Mamaivaṁso jiva-loke sanatanaḥ; [Bg. 15.7]. It is stated there. So jiva is sanatana. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. And Krṣṇa is also sanatana. In the Eleventh Chapter Krṣṇa is addressed, sanatana. And here there is another sky which is called sanatana. Avyaktaḥ; avyaktat sanatanaḥ;. So this sanatana-dhama and sanatana association... Krṣṇa is sanatana, living entity is sanatana, and there is a sanatana-dhama.

So the cultivation of knowledge how one can go back to that sanatana-dhama and associate with the supreme sanatana and remain yourself sanatana, that is called sanatana-dharma. So we have to cultivate that sanatana-dharma, means we have to purify ourself from the material qualification or material designation. Here we have got material designation: "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," "I am brahmaṇa," "I am this and that." So one has to become free. That is purification, when we understand that, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu introduced Himself, that "I am not a brahmaṇa, I am not a kṣatriya, I am not a sudra, I am not a sannyasi, I am not a brahmacari, but I am servant of the servant of Krṣṇa [Cc. Madhya 13.80]." Gopi-bhartuḥ; pada-kamalayor dasa-dasa-dasanudasaḥ;. If we come to this understanding, that is our purification.

Just like in our this Krṣṇa consciousness movement we have got people from all different countries, all different religious system, caste, creed, colors, but they have forgotten their material designation. If these American boys or English boys would have thought that they are Englishmen, then they could not mix with us Indian in such humble way because they have their prestigious position. And actually materially they are advanced and opulent. Why they should come with me, an Indian, poor Indian? No. Because they have forgotten. Their designation they have forgotten. Similarly, we have to forget this material designation due to this body. This is bodily conception of life.

So nowadays it is going on very strong, "nation." We do not have any such conception in the sastra, national idea. The division is deva and asura. It doesn't matter where you are born. Even in India... Suppose you are born in a brahmaṇa family. It does not mean that you cannot become an asura. And even if in Europe and America if you are born or in the mleccha and yavana family, it does not mean that you cannot become a brahmaṇa. No. Krṣṇa says openly, maṁ hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuḥ; papa-yonayaḥ; [Bg. 9.32]. Papa-yoni, low-born. Papa-yoni. There are... They are mentioned in the sastras, kirata-huṇandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanaḥ; khasadayaḥ; [SB 2.4.18]. They are considered as caṇḍala, less than the sudras. Kirata means Africans, the black. In our country also there are santals, very black. They live in the forest. Every country aborigines. They are called kirata. So Huns... There are Huns on the northern side of Germany. Andhra, kirata-huṇandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanaḥ; khasadayaḥ;. Many. But Sukadeva Gosvami says that they can be purified, sudhyanti prabhaviṣṇave, if they become Vaiṣṇava. Prabhaviṣṇave namaḥ;. If one becomes Vaiṣṇava, then he is transcendental to this material designation.

So this Krṣṇa consciousness movement is an endeavor to make everyone a pure Vaiṣṇava. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Then he will be nirmala. In that nirmala stage, when he engages himself in the service of the Lord, that is called bhakti. Bhakti is not the activities of this material world. Bhakti is activity, sa guṇan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate [Bg. 14.26]. To become identified with Brahman, that is not sufficient. Ahaṁ brahmasmi. Brahma-bhutaḥ; prasannatma. That is not sufficient. Brahma-bhutaḥ; prasannatma na socati na kaṅkṣati [Bg. 18.54]. When you become free from this material designation, brahma-bhutaḥ; stage, ahaṁ brahmasmi, that is a stage, neutral stage. Na socati na kaṅkṣati. Means you become free from the material anxieties. Material life means socati, kaṅkṣati. Always people want something, and whatever he has got, if he has lost, he laments for something. This is our material life. But when you come to the Brahman platform, na socati na... This is the first qualification—no more lamentation, no more hankering. Samaḥ; sarveṣu bhuteṣu. Paṇḍitaḥ; sama-darsinaḥ; [Bg. 5.18]. Then sarveṣu bhuteṣu, every living entity, he can... He knows that every living entity is the son of Krṣṇa. Ahaṁ bija-pradaḥ; pita [Bg. 14.4], Krṣṇa says. So why shall I distinguish between this person to that person? Everyone is Vaiṣṇava. That is maha-bhagavata. Maha-bhagavata does not see any distinction. He sees everyone. Paṇḍitaḥ; sama...

vidya-vinaya-sampanne
brahmaṇe gavi hastini
suni caiva sva-pake ca
paṇḍitaḥ; sama...
[Bg. 5.18]

When one has attained this stage, then he can execute devotional service. Mad-bhaktiṁ labhate param [Bg. 18.54]. So to become a bhakta is the highest position, highest perfection of life, beyond this material existence. That is possible. Krṣṇa says

maṁ hi partha vyapasritya
ye 'pi syuḥ; papa-yonayaḥ;
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras
te 'pi yanti paraṁ gatim
[Bg. 9.32]

Everyone is eligible to go back home, back to Godhead. So this movement is to execute this Krṣṇa's mission. He wants it. Why He says, maṁ hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuḥ; papa-yonayaḥ;? Papa-yonayaḥ; means suffering. Here in this material world either you are in papa-yoni or ucca-yoni, there is suffering. So Krṣṇa is... Kiṁ punar brahmaṇaḥ; puṇya bhakta rajarṣayas tatha [Bg. 9.33]. Even the papa-yonis, they can be relieved, what to speak of those who are born in good family, brahmaṇa, puṇya, rajarṣaya, brahmaṇa, kṣatriya. Of course, in this age it is very difficult to find out the qualified brahmaṇa, kṣatriya. Kalau sudra-sambhavaḥ;. Kali-yuga, everyone is almost sudra. And still, striyo vaisyas tatha sudras te 'pi yanti paraṁ gatim. They can be elevated. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is para-upakara, para-upakara, because within this material world, with material designation and material envelopment, they are all suffering. Krṣṇa is more unhappy for our suffering because we are His sons. Suppose your son is suffering. You will suffer also, not that the son is suffering. Similarly, because we have come to this conditional state of life, bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]—we sometimes..., once we take birth and again we die—this is not very good proposal. But these rascals, they do not know how nature is working. Tatha dehantara-praptir dhiras tatra na muhyati [Bg. 2.13]. We are leaving one body and accepting another body. This is a great botheration. But the rascal so-called scientist, politician, they do not know this. I therefore say, "rascals." They are very much proud of their learning, advancement of science, but they cannot understand the simple truth spoken in the Bhagavad-gita, dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaraṁ yauvanaṁ jara, tatha dehantara-praptiḥ; [Bg. 2.13]. There is dehantara-praptiḥ;. Dhiras tatra na muhyati.

So people are surprised. They do not believe that they are... But dhiras tatra na muhyati: Those who are dhira, sober, intelligent, they understand, "Yes, there is dehantara-prap..." The example He's giving, dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaraṁ yauvanaṁ jara [Bg. 2.13]. Just like we are changing body, kaumaraṁ yauvanaṁ jara, similarly, the old body, "old order changes to a new." Again we get another body. And this is very, very great botheration of life. They do not understand. But it can be stopped. Tyaktva dehaṁ punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg. 4.9]. It can be stopped. How? Simply by understanding Krṣṇa. Janma karma ca me divyaṁ yo janati tattvataḥ; [Bg. 4.9]. You simply try to understand Krṣṇa. And Krṣṇa is explaining Himself. Where is the difficulty to understand Krṣṇa? You haven't got to speculate. You haven't got to manufacture ideas what kind of Krṣṇa He is. He is present, dvi-bhuja-muralidhara-krṣṇa. Krṣṇa when He was present in the, upon this earth, everyone has seen. Krṣṇa has His temple, thousands and millions of temples, Krṣṇa. You can see His picture. Description is there, veṇuṁ kvaṇantam, in the Vedic literature.

veṇuṁ kvaṇantam aravinda-dalayatakṣaṁ
barhavataṁsam asitambuda-sundaraṅgam
kandarpa-koṭi-kamaniya-viseṣa-sobhaṁ
govindam adi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajami
[Bs. 5.30]

Why? What is the difficulty to understand Krṣṇa? And simply if you understand Krṣṇa... Janma karma ca me divyam [Bg. 4.9]. They are not ordinary activities. Janma karma ca me divyam-transcendental. If you simply understand Krṣṇa, then we can save from this botheration of repetition of birth and death. Tyaktva dehaṁ punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. He does not accept any more this material body. Then where does he go? Mam eti: "He comes to Me, back to home, back to Godhead." So this Krṣṇa consciousness movement is trying to introduce this movement in the human society. It is not meant for any particular class of men, a particular country or particular religious system. No. It is meant for everyone. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu said that it is the duty of the Indians.

bharata-bhumite haila manuṣya-janma yara
janma sarthaka kari' kara para-upakara
[Cc. Adi 9.41]

First of all make yourself perfect. You can make yourself perfect because in the Bharatavarṣa there are this Bhagavad-gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Vedic literature. Just study them. And therefore we are publishing so many books on the basis of Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam and people are appreciating very much all over the world. So it is the duty of every Indian to make his life perfect by understanding Bhagavad-gita at least, and spread the message. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission. Yare dekha tare kaha krṣṇa-upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. Every one of you can become a guru. He says that. Amara ajñaya guru haña tara' ei desa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. Wherever you are, you can deliver the persons, surrounding persons in your neighborhood. "How can I become guru? I have no qualification." No. There is no need of qualification. Simply repeat. Yare dekha tare kaha krṣṇa-upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. Very simple thing. Anyone you meet, "My dear friend, just hear little." "What is that?" "Now, Krṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You kindly think of Krṣṇa. Just offer your obeisances to Krṣṇa, just become a bhakta and chant His holy name." Bas. Your guru duty is finished. So it is not very difficult task. Anyone can do this. And then everyone will be benefited. And that is Krṣṇa consciousness movement. Thank you very much. (end)

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