Room Conversation
New Delhi
8 Nov

Prabhupada: Give up your material activities and engage yourself in spiritual activities. That is mukti. Just like a man in diseased condition, he is acting. He is also acting. He is also passing stool, passing urine, eating something, lying down, talking. He has got activities. But that activities and when he is free from the disease, that activity is different. Similarly, if you change your activity, you can become mukta even in this life. That is mukti, real mukti. Muktir hitvanyatha-rupam svarupena vyavasthitiḥ; [SB 2.10.6]. If you give up your diseased conditional activities... Just like these boys who are in Krsna, they are muktas, because they are not interested with any material activities. They are not interested to read in the morning any newspaper. No. They cannot waste their time in that way or take part in politics. No. They are simply interested in chanting Hare Krsna mantra and reading these books. Therefore they are muktas. They are all liberated. Because hitvanyatha-rupam. Other people, they are reading newspaper, doing all nonsense, but they are not interested. The anyatha-rupam. That is material business. Svarupena vyavasthitiḥ; [SB 2.10.6]. Svarupa means jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. Every living entity is eternally Krsna dasa. So if you give up these material activities and engage yourself in Krsna's service, you are mukta. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita.

mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena
bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]

It is confirmed. So anyone who is engaged in Krsna consciousness, he is mukta. For them there is no demand for mukti. Muktir mukulitañjali sevate 'sman. Bilvamangala Thakura: "The mukti is standing before me with folded hands, 'What can I do for you?' " Because he is bhakta. So for a bhakta there is no such demand, mukti. Means they are muktas already. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, mama janmani janmanisvare bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki [Cc. Antya 20.29, Siksasṭaka 4]. Because He's mukta. There may be again birth, but a devotee takes birth for spreading Krsna consciousness, not for any other business. Therefore he is mukta. Jivan-muktaḥ; sa ucyate. Iha yasya harer dasye. So mukti is not very difficult thing. If you cent percent engage in Krsna consciousness business, you are mukta. That is mukti. That is the verdict of the sastra. Mukti does not mean that I have got now one head, I will get four heads. No. This one head is sufficient, but it must be engaged for Krsna. That is it.

Guest (1) (Indian man): Hundred percent.

Prabhupada: Hundred percent, yes. That's all. Kirtaniyaḥ; sada hariḥ; [Cc. Adi 17.31]. This is mukti. Any other question.

Guest (2): Yes. I have very many questions to ask.

Prabhupada: Yes, that's nice. But you cannot assimilate all the answers in one day. That is not possible. You see. You have many questions, but ask in many days, not in one day. Otherwise you will get indigestion. (laughter) You will not be able to... Simply you go on questioning, questioning, and don't take anything. That is no use. Take. Make one question. Try to understand. Adopt it in life. Then make another question. Don't take all the answers at a time and become suffering in dysentery. No. (laughter) Don't do that. That's alright. You cannot take one month's food in one hour. Can you take? So that's alright. Gradually. Your questions are nice, but don't take the answers all in a day. That will be not good. If you understand very easily, then you will forget very easily.

Guest (2): That is natural. Yes.

Prabhupada: Natural, you see. If you understand little with difficulty, then you will forget also with difficulty. This is the way. So any other question? After this question-answer? (end)