Room Conversation
New Delhi
1 Nov

Prabhupada: ...gatva duḥ;khanusangaminaḥ;. There is misery. Even you go to the Moon planet... This is Bhagavata. Before going to your Moon planet here is the information: "Anywhere you go rascal these things will follow, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi [Bg. 13.9] and inconveniences. You'll have to suffer." So one's who's, one who is intelligent, then: "Where shall I find real happiness?" That is Krsna. Therefore one requires to be very, very intelligent to become Krsna conscious. Sarva, sarvatra bhasananvita (?). The Sridhara Svami gives note, sarvatra lokantare 'pi. Even if you go to other planets... Now these rascals are going now, trying, not going. And in the Bhagavata says, lokantare 'pi. Even in other planets. That means they were going in other planets. Otherwise how it is stated, lokantare, "in other planets also"? From the statement it appears that people used to go. And here, Arjuna went to heavenly planet. And there the heavenly prostitute came to Arjuna. She's prostitute. So when Arjuna refused, that... His father is Indra...

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: So Arjuna said that "You have connection with my father. Therefore you are my mother."

Srutakirti: You mentioned him in the Caitanya-caritamrta purport. When one yogi was performing severe austerities, Lord Indra would send the dancing girls. They were called...

Prabhupada: Yes. Apsaras.

Srutakirti: Yes.

Prabhupada: Apsaras.

Srutakirti: He would send them.

Prabhupada: The same thing here. Just like prostitute, they are going to the club. The father is going also; the son is going. And the prostitute is the same. Everywhere, this material happiness, wine, women...

Brahmananda: I think there... That boy, Ranchor, his father said, "You leave Krsna consciousness and I will give you a car and women."

Prabhupada: Yes. Your father also said like that. (laughter) Here father will feel shame to advise the son, or the son will feel shame to talk about sex with father or mother.

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: About sex one can talk with friends, not with father and mother.

Brahmananda: Not with...

Prabhupada: But in western countries it is very open talk. And open business also. Sarvatra. Sarvatra lokantare 'pi vasanavagatya iha duḥ;khanusanghanena, nivrtta-kama...(?) So one should give up this material sense gratification. The more you become entangled in material sense gratification, more you'll have to remain in this material world. Iti tiprokti malakam tam proktam kama karma prokta gena iti, aham deva upasya yesantai sanghata nirvaira adrstitvam samyag anvasya duḥ;kha, sukha-duḥ;kha eva, sukha-duḥ;kha...(?) Water is wasted?

Srutakirti: Almost full. Very slow.

Prabhupada: Viraraghavacarya: deha-geha-gehayoḥ; atmiya buddhiḥ; jihasaya tyagecchaya (?). Atma-buddhi, this family, society, friendship and love. Yes. To feel very much affection... What is called? Attached. Tyageccha. It should be given up. Therefore the sannyasa asrama. Just try to deliver this message very... Everyone is in darkness. Therefore I was speaking. They do not know what is siddhi. Yesterday, you were present? Yes.

Brahmananda: Oh, yes.

Prabhupada: They do not know what is siddhi. What is perfection of life, they do not know. Neither they have information.

Brahmananda: Simply they talk about it.

Prabhupada: All foolish. Andha yathandhair upaniyamanaḥ; [SB 7.5.31]. Blind man leading other blind men. There is no sense. Whole civilization. It is, this Krsna con..., our movement is a challenge to everyone, a challenge, genuine challenge. After all, everyone wants happiness, but they do not know what is happiness. So you can make few puris and kittri. That's all.

Brahmananda: Srutakirti! Prabhu.

Srutakirti: Palika is already cooking.

Prabhupada: Oh.

Brahmananda: Puris, he said.

Prabhupada: Capaá¹­i can also be...

Srutakirti: Puri or paraá¹­a, I think, would be...

Prabhupada: Paraá¹­a can do.

Srutakirti: Yes, she is...

Prabhupada: So you can give me massage now.

Brahmananda: Massage him.

Srutakirti: Yes. All right.

Brahmananda: Hare Krsna. Nama om visnu-padaya...

Prabhupada: Sarvatra vasanava gatya (?). So if this advertisement attracts some people, then I can remain here.

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: To organize this.

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: For some time. Oh, they have got a bath also?

Srutakirti: Yes.

Prabhupada: Very nice.

Srutakirti: Yamuna has... She has...

Prabhupada: Where is Yamuna?

Srutakirti: I guess she is out shopping also.

Prabhupada: Sarvatra vyasanad apy atra... (?) Now here, as soon as we came, we thought it very nice, and immediately...

Srutakirti: So many things.

Prabhupada: So many inconveniences. (laughter) Vyasanad apy atra. Wherever you go, even though you found it is very convenient, very nice, you must know there is, there is inconvenience. Don't be so sure that it is full of nice things. No. That is not possible. Sarvatra vyasanad api. What is that?

Srutakirti: Fifteen minutes of water.

Prabhupada: Oh... So you, you can get that connection disconnected now. Otherwise you're going...

Srutakirti: Yes. I could also connect over to here.

Prabhupada: Yes. For the time being, you disconnect. Otherwise it will fall down.

Srutakirti: Yes.

Prabhupada: With water. Then you create another inconvenience. Yes. That's it. You have taken your bath? Not yet?

Brahmananda: In the morning, we took.

Prabhupada: You have taken?

Brahmananda: Oh yes.

Prabhupada: So where is your oil?

Srutakirti: I have it. [break] (end)