Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)

Prabhupada: You can derive (divide?) the syllables. Sa tat-kara-sparsa-dhuta-akhila-asubhaḥ;. You cannot pronounce combinedly, just divide. Sa tat-kara-sparsa-dhuta-akhila-asubhaḥ;, like that. Anyway, chant. (Pradyumna chants again, devotees chant slowly) There is no board writing. Why? So many men could not write the board? They cannot see. Go on. (devotees attempt to chant) That's all right. Difficult.

Pradyumna: "Translation: By the touch of Lord Nrsiṁhadeva's hand on Prahlada Maharaja's head, Prahlada was completely freed of all material contaminations and desires, as if he had been thoroughly cleansed. Therefore he at once became transcendentally situated, and all the symptoms of ecstasy became manifest in his body. His heart filled with love, and his eyes with tears, and thus he was able to completely capture the lotus feet of the Lord within the core of his heart."

Prabhupada:

sa tat-kara-sparsa-dhutakhilasubhaḥ;
sapady abhivyakta-paratma-darsanaḥ;
tat-pada-padmaṁ hrdi nivrto dadhau
hrṣyat-tanuḥ; klinna-hrd-asru-locanaḥ;
[SB 7.9.6]

So Prahlada Maharaja, tat-kara-sparsa, "touch of the lotus palm of Nrsiṁhadeva," the same palm where there is nail. Tava kara kamala-vare nakham adbhuta-srṅgam. The same palm with nakha adbhuta... Dalita-hiraṇyakasipu-tanu-bhrṅgam. Immediately, with the nails only... The Lord did not require any weapon to kill this gigantic demon, simply nails. Tava kara-kamala. The example is very nice, kamala. Kamala means lotus. The Lord's palm is just like lotus flower. Therefore in the lotus flower it is very soft, very pleasing, and how the nails came? Therefore adbhuta. Tava kara-kamala, adbhuta. Nakham adbhuta-srṅgam. It is not possible to grow some ferocious nails, piercing nails, in the lotus flower. This is contradictory. Therefore Jayadeva says, adbhuta: "It is wonderful. It is astonishing." This... Therefore Lord's power, exhibition of power and sharp nails, they're all inconceivable. Srila Jiva Goswami has explained, "Unless you accept inconceivable power of the Supreme Lord, there is no understanding." Acintya. Acintya-sakti. Acintya means inconceivable. You cannot speculate how it is happening, how in the lotus flower there is so hard nail that immediately, within a second, it could kill a great demon like Hiranyakasipu. Therefore it is acintya. We cannot conceive. Acintya. And therefore Vedic instruction is acintya khalu ye bhava na taṁs tarkeṇa yo jayet: "Do not apply your poor logic in the matters which is inconceivable by you." There is no logic that how lotus flower can grow nails. They say, "Mythology." Because they cannot conceive within their poor brain, they cannot accommodate how things happen like that, they say, "Mythology." Not mythology. It is fact, but it is inconceivable by you or us. It is not possible.

So that, the same kara kamala, was put on the head of Prahlada Maharaja. Prahladahlada-dayine. Prahlada Maharaja was feeling, "Oh, how blissful this hand." Not only feeling, but immediately all his material unhappiness, pangs, disappeared. This is the process of transcendental touch. We can have the same facility in this age. It is not that Prahlada Maharaja became immediately jubilant by the touch of the lotus palm of the Lord. You can have the same benefit immediately if we become like Prahlada Maharaja. Then it is possible. Krṣṇa is advaya-jñana, so in this age Krṣṇa has descended in His sound vibration form: kali yuga nama rupe krṣṇavatara. This age... Because these fallen men in this age, they are... They have no qualification. Mandaḥ;. Everyone is bad. Nobody is qualified. They have no spiritual knowledge. Don't mind. In your Western country they are very much puffed up with material knowledge, but they have no spiritual knowledge. Perhaps in the history, for the first time in the history, they're getting some information of spiritual knowledge.

Devotees: Jaya.

Prabhupada: Otherwise there was no spiritual knowledge. They do not know. That's a fact.

In the Bhagavad-gita it is said,

bhumir apo 'nalo vayuḥ;
khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca
bhinna me prakrtir aṣṭadha
[Bg. 7.4]

These materialistic persons, scientists, physicists and other speculator, they're dealing with these elements, material—earth, water, fire, air, ether, up to mind, psychology, or, little advanced, intelligence, but no more. They are dealing in their university, colleges, educational institution. They are concerned with these elements, material. They have no spiritual knowledge. Krṣṇa said... We get information from the Bhagavad-gita, apareyam: "These eight elements, they are inferior." Therefore, because they are dealing with this inferior nature only, their knowledge is inferior. This is a fact. It is not that I am accusing. No. This is the... They have no information. Big, big professor, they say that this body finished... "Body finished" means pañcatva (?) prapta. They do not know that there is another body, subtle body—mind, intelligence, ego. They do not know. They are thinking this earth, water, air, fire, ether, that much..., "This is finished, I see, either you burn the body or bury the body, finished, everything finished. And where is other thing?" So they have no knowledge. So they have no knowledge even of the subtle body, earth, water, which carries the soul, and what they'll know about the soul?

So Krṣṇa gives information in the Bhagavad-gita, apareyam: "These elements, even up to mind, intelligence, ego, bhinna, they are My separated energy, separated energy. And," apareyam, "this is inferior. And there is another, superior nature." Apareyam itas tv viddhi me prakrtiṁ para. Para means superior. Now, they may be asking, "What is that? We know these elements only. What is that another superior energy?" Jiva bhutaḥ; maha-baho, clearly said: "That is living..." And they are thinking that there is no other superior energy except these eight material elements or five elements. Therefore they are in ignorance. It is for the first time they are getting some knowledge, Bhagavad-gita As It Is, and from that they can know that there is another, superior energy who is jiva-bhutaḥ;. The living entity which is moving the body, that is superior energy. So they have no information, neither there is an attempt to understand that superior energy in their universities or institution. Therefore they are muḍha, muḍhas. They may be very much puffed up of their so-called knowledge, but according to Vedic knowledge they are muḍhas. And if one cannot understand the superior energy, prakrti, nature, then how one can understand God? That is not possible. Then again, dealings between God and the superior energy, that is bhakti. It is very difficult. Manuṣyaṇaṁ sahasreṣu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. That siddhaye means to understand that superior energy. That is siddhi. And after that, one can understand Krṣṇa.

So it is very difficult, especially in this age. Mandaḥ; sumanda-matayo [SB 1.1.10]. They are... Mandaḥ; means they are not interested, or even they are little interested, they are very slow. They do not understand this is the prime knowledge. And first of all you must know it, athato brahma jijñasa, that superior knowledge. That is required. But everyone is neglecting. There is no inquisitiveness even what is that thing which is moving this body. There is no inquiry. They think automatically, by combination of this matter... They are still persisting on this point, and when you challenge, "You take this chemical and prepare the living force," they'll say, "That I cannot do." And what is this? If you cannot do, then why you are speaking like nonsense, that "The combination of matter or chemicals gives the life"? You take the chemicals. Our Doctor Svarupa Damodara in the California University... One big professor came to lecture on chemical evolution, and he challenged immediately, that "If I give you the chemicals, can you produce life?" He said, "That I cannot say." So this is their position. They cannot prove it. They cannot do it. Science means not only observation but experiment also. That is complete. Otherwise theory. It is not science. So they have got different theories. That anyone can put forward. That is not But real fact is that Krṣṇa is spiritual and He's the Supreme. Nityo nityanaṁ cetanas cetananam (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). This is the Vedic injunction. God is the supreme nitya, eternal, and the Supreme Living Being. In the dictionary also it is said, "God means the Supreme Being." They could not understand Supreme Living Being. But in the Vedas it is said not only Supreme Being, but Supreme Living Being. Nityo nityanaṁ cetanas cetanam eko yo bahunaṁ vidadhati kaman. That is the description of God.

So it is very difficult to understand even the spiritual substance, and what to speak of God. The beginning of spiritual knowledge is to understand first of all what is spirit. And they are taking the intelligence or mind as spirit. But that is not spirit. Beyond that... Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim para [Bg. 7.5]. So this perfection, as Prahlada Maharaja had immediately by touching the Supreme Personality of..., we can also have. There is possibility, and very easily, because we are fallen, mandaḥ;, very slow, very bad. Mandaḥ; and sumanda-matayo. And because we are bad, everyone has manufactured a theory. Sumanda. Mata. Mata means opinion. And what is that opinion? Not only manda but sumanda, very, very bad. Sumanda-matayo. Mandaḥ; sumanda-matayo manda-bhagyaḥ; [SB 1.1.10], and all unfortunate or misfortunate. Why? When there is knowledge, they'll not take. They will theorize. They're unfortunate. Ready knowledge, but they will theorize, "It is like this. It is like that. It is like that. Perhaps... Maybe..." This is going on. Therefore manda-bhagyah. Just like here is money. One will not take that money. He'll work hard like hogs and dog to earn money. So that means unfortunate. So mandaḥ; sumanda-matayo manda-bhagyaḥ;. And because manda-bhagyaḥ;, there is upadrutaḥ;, always disturbance—this war, that war, that war. Beginning, whole history, simply war. Why war? Why there is fight? There should not be any fight because everything is complete. Purṇam idam [Isopaniṣad, Invocation]. The world is full by the mercy of the Supreme Lord. Because it is the kingdom... This is also kingdom of God. But we have made it hell by unnecessarily fighting. That's all. Otherwise it is... For a devotee—purṇam. Visvaṁ purṇaṁ sukhayate. Why there should be fight? God has supplied everything. You want water? Three-fourths of the earth is full of water. But that water is salt. God has process how to make it sweet. You cannot do this. Water you want. There is sufficient water. Why there should be scarcity? Now we heard in Europe they were contemplating importing water. Was not that? Yes. In England they were thinking of importing. Is that possible? But these rascal scientists think like that. They'll import. Why not? The England is surrounded by water. Why don't you take water? No. Nire kari bas na me tilo piyas. "I'm living in water, but I'm dying of thirst." (laughter) These rascals' philosophy... Or in... I think in our childhood we read one book, a Moral Class book, said there was a story that shipwrecked, and they took the shelter of one boat, but some of them died of thirst because they could not drink water. So in the water they were living, but they died of thirst.

So our position is like that. Everything is full. Still, we are dying and fighting. What is the reason? The reason is that we do not follow Krṣṇa. This is the reason: absence of Krṣṇa consciousness. My Guru Maharaja used to say that the whole world is full of everything. Only scarcity is Krṣṇa consciousness. Only scarcity. Otherwise there is no scarcity. Everything is full. And if you take the instruction of Krṣṇa you will be happy immediately. You can make the whole world happy. This instruction of Krṣṇa in the Bhagavad-gita, so perfect... It must be perfect because it is coming from Krṣṇa. It is not the so-called scientist theory. No. Perfect instruction. And if we follow the instruction, if we practically utilize, then whole world... Visvaṁ purṇaṁ sukhayate.

So as Nrsiṁhadeva touched the head of Prahlada Maharaja, immediately you can have that same facility. "What is that facility? How? Nrsiṁhadeva is not here. Krṣṇa is not here." No. He is here. "What is that?" Nama rupe kali kale krṣṇa avatara. Krṣṇa is present by his name, Krṣṇa. Don't think this Krṣṇa, Hare Krṣṇa, this name, is different from Krṣṇa. Absolute. Krṣṇa, the Deity Krṣṇa, the name Krṣṇa, the person Krṣṇa—everything, the same Absolute Truth. There is no differentiation. So in this age simply by chanting Kirtanad eva krṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ; paraṁ vrajet [SB 12.3.51]. Simply by chanting the holy name of Krṣṇa... Nama-cintamaṇi krṣṇaḥ; caitanya-rasa-vigrahaḥ;, purṇaḥ; suddho nitya-muktaḥ;. Don't think the holy name of Krṣṇa is different from Krṣṇa. It is purṇam. Purṇaḥ; purṇam adaḥ; purṇam idam [Isopaniṣad, Invocation]. Everything purṇa. Purṇa means complete. We have tried to explain this completeness in our Isopaniṣad. You have read. So stick to the holy name of Krṣṇa. You'll get the same benefit as Prahlada Maharaja got by direct touch of the lotus palm of Nrsiṁhadeva. There is no difference. Always think like that, that as soon as you are chanting Hare Krṣṇa, you must know that you are touching Krṣṇa with your tongue. Then you get the same benefit as Prahlada Maharaja.

Thank you very much. (end)

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