Prabhupada: He's not here? Paṇḍita? Where he is?

Hari-sauri: Oh, he's here.

Prabhupada: Read it. (hums)

Pradyumna: (chants oṁ namo bhagavate vasudevaya) Yasyam?

Prabhupada: No, that is finished. Number three. Number eight.

Pradyumna:

sa saṁhitaṁ bhagavatiṁ
krtvanukramya catma-jam
sukam adhyapayam asa
nivrtti-nirataṁ muniḥ;
[SB 1.7.8]

"The great sage Vyasadeva, after compiling the Srimad-Bhagavatam and revising it, taught it to his own son, Sri Sukadeva Gosvami, who was already engaged in self-realization."

Prabhupada:

sa saṁhitaṁ bhagavatiṁ
krtvanukramya catma-jam
sukam adhyapayam asa
nivrtti-nirataṁ muniḥ;
[SB 1.7.8]

So this saṁhita... Saṁhita means Vedic literature. There are many rascals, they say that "Bhagavata was not written by Vyasadeva, it was written by some Bopadeva." They say like that. Mayavadis, the Nirisvaravadi. Because although Nirisvaravadi, or Mayavadi leader Saṅkaracarya, he wrote comments on Bhagavad-gita, but he could not touch Srimad-Bhagavatam, because in the Srimad-Bhagavatam the things are so nicely set up, krtvanukramya, that it is not possible by the Mayavadis to prove that God is impersonal. They cannot do it. Nowadays they are doing, reading Bhagavatam in their own way, but that does not appeal to any sane man. Sometimes I have seen a big Mayavadi is explaining one verse from Srimad-Bhagavatam, that "Because you are God, therefore if you are pleased, then God is pleased." This is their philosophy. "You do not require to please God separately. So if you are pleased by drinking wine, then God is pleased." This is their explanation. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu has condemned this Mayavadi commentary. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has said, mayavadi-bhaṣya sunile haya sarva-nasa [Cc. Madhya 6.169]. Mayavadi krṣṇe aparadhi. He has plainly said. No compromise. The Mayavadis, they're great offender to Krṣṇa. Tan ahaṁ dviṣataḥ; kruran [Bg. 16.19], Krṣṇa also says. They're very, very envious to Krṣṇa. Krṣṇa is dvi-bhuja-muralidhara, syamasundara, and the Mayavadi explains that "Krṣṇa has no hand, no leg. This is all imagination." How much offensive it is they do not know. But to warn people like us, Caitanya Mahaprabhu has plainly warned that "Don't go to Mayavadis." Mayavadi-bhaṣya sunile haya sarva-nasa. Mayavadi haya krṣṇe aparadhi. This is the statement of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

So you should be very, very careful. Don't go to hear any Mayavadi. There are many Mayavadis in the dress of Vaiṣṇavas. Sri Bhaktivinoda Ṭhakura has explained about them, that ei 'ta eka kali-cela nake tilaka gale mala, that "Here is a follower of Kali. Although he has got a tilaka on the nose and neck beads, but he's a kali-cela." If he's Mayavadi, sahaja-bhajana kache mama saṅge laya pare bala. So these things are there. You have come to Vrndavana. Be careful, very careful. Mayavadi-bhaṣya sunile [Cc. Madhya 6.169]. There are many Mayavadis here, many so-called tilaka-mala, but you do not know what is there inside. But great acaryas, they can find out.

sruti-smrti-puraṇadi
pañcaratra-vidhiṁ vina
aikantiki harer bhaktir
utpatayaiva kalpate
[Brs. 1.2.101]

They create disturbance only. Therefore we have to follow the Gosvamis, Gosvami literature, especially Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, which we have translated in The Nectar of Devotion, every one of you should very carefully read and make progress. Don't be victimized by the Mayavadi so-called Vaiṣṇava. It is very dangerous.

Therefore it is said, sa saṁhitaṁ bhagavatiṁ krtvanukramya catma-jam. It is very confidential subject matter. He taught it, instructed to Sukadeva Gosvami. Atma-jam. Like father, like son. There is no difference between son and disciple. Caṇakya Paṇḍita has equalized,

lalane bahavo doṣas
taḍane bahavo guṇaḥ;
tasmat putraṁ ca siṣyaṁ ca
taḍayen na tu lalayet

That is the, I mean to say, Vedic system—to teach the son and teach the disciple. If one cannot teach the son—the son is disobedient—he should give up his family life. Otherwise a father is in obligation to teach the son properly. But if it is not possible... Sometimes it so happens as family members, they do not take care. Otherwise Vyasadeva's son is expected to become Sukadeva Gosvami. If not, such family connection should be given up. Anukulyasya saṅkalpaḥ; pratikulyasya varjanam. Family life, if it is favorable for advancing Krṣṇa consciousness, it should be accepted; otherwise it should be rejected. Anukulyasya saṅkalpaḥ; pratikulyasya varjanam.

So what was the qualification of Sukadeva Gosvami which induced Vyasadeva to teach him this saṁhitam? Sukam adhyapayam asa nivrtti-niratam: he has no more attraction for material world. That is the qualification. Nirvrtti. There are two kinds of life: nirvrtti and pravrtti. Pravrtti means materialistic, karmis. Generally karmis, they have got tendency to enjoy this material world. That is called pravrtti. Pravrtti-marga. Pravrttes tu... Pravrtti is natural inclination. Anyone who has come to this material world... Pravrttir eṣa bhutanam. Everyone is in the pravrtti-marga. What is that pravrtti-marga? The pravrtti-marga is these things: sex, meat-eating, intoxication, like that. This is pravrtti-marga. Pravrttir eṣa bhutanaṁ nivrttes tu maha-phalam. So the whole Vedic literature is there how to make him stop this pravrtti-marga. That is the whole plan. Otherwise there are many instances, loke vyavayamiṣa-madya-seva nityas tu jantuḥ;. Nitya. A jantuḥ;, he's called jantuḥ;. Jantuḥ; means animal or no intelligence. Those who are jantuḥ;, they have got this tendency. Pravrttir eṣa. What is that? Vyavayamiṣa-madya-seva: sex and meat-eating. Amiṣa, meat, egg, fish; and madya, intoxication. This is pravrtti. Loke vyavaya. Vyavaya means sex. Amiṣa-madya-seva nitya tu jantuḥ;. Jantuḥ; means living being, conditioned in the material world, they have got this general tendency. Pravrtti. You will find in animals, in birds, in beasts, and beastly human being, two-legged beast... There are four-legged beasts and two-legged beasts. Four-legged beasts are the animals—cats, dogs, tigers, etc. Cows, asses. They are four-legged beasts. And there are two-legged beasts, dvi-pada-pasu. It is not manufactured; it is there in the sastra. Dvi-pada-pasu. Dvi means two, and pada means legged. So any human being who is attached to this pravrtti-marga-sex, meat-eating, intoxication, gambling—he is dvi-pada-pasu, two-legged animals. This is pravrtti-marga.

Therefore education should be in such a way planned that he should be nirvrtti-marga. Pravrttir eṣa bhutanaṁ nirvrttes tu maha-phalam. These are general tendency for the conditioned soul. But if anyone can control by training by education these things—vyavayamiṣa-madya-seva: sex life, intoxication and meat-eating—then he's called niratam. He becomes qualified. Vyasadeva preferred to teach Srimad-Bhagavatam to his son Sukadeva Gosvami because he was niratam, nivrtti-niratam. He was engaged. From the very beginning of his life, as soon as he was... It is said for sixteen years within the womb of his mother, he did not come out purposefully so that he may not be materially attached. Because a small child, the baby comes out from the mother's womb. Within the womb, when he's in suffering, he prays to God, "This time kindly release me. Now I shall begin bhagavad-bhajana." One who is little advanced in his previous life... Because it is very, very terrible condition within the womb of the mother. We have forgotten. But we can imagine, if you are packed up in a bag and put hand and legs tightly knotted, just imagine. You cannot live even for three minutes. They say if you are airtight packed-up like that, as we are put into the womb of the mother, we cannot exist more than three minutes. But we existed by the mercy of Krṣṇa. Only by the mercy. That is also nowadays very dangerous. In that packed-up condition, he's there, he's already suffering, and the mother is planning to go to the doctor and kill the child. Just imagine how precarious condition in the womb of the mother. And if we do not try in this life that "I shall not again enter into the womb of the mother," then what is the value of this life? We have to learn it from the sastra. You cannot see actually, but the medical science explains that a child is placed in this way. In Bhagavata also it is stated how the child grows his body, how it is put into that precarious condition.

So one should be senseful, that "So much suffering awaiting..." Tatha dehantara-praptiḥ;. And Krṣṇa says, "You have to accept another body." Not that death is finish. They have made it a very easy formula, that after death everything is finished—because they are rascals. They do not take lesson from Krṣṇa. Krṣṇa said, tatha dehantara-praptir dhiras tatra na muhyati: [Bg. 2.13] you have to change your body. But these rascals, they do not know. "What kind of body I'm going to get? How the body is going to be changed? No, don't care. Go on." Muḍha janmani janmani [Bg. 16.20]. Muḍha-yoniṣu. They do not even try to understand wherefrom so many varieties of life are coming-jalaja nava-lakṣaṇi sthavara lakṣa-viṁsati. And still they are passing on as scientist. What science? It is only ignorance. If you have to study science, you have to take it from Krṣṇa. Krṣṇa said, tatha dehantara-praptiḥ; [Bg. 2.13]. Prakrteḥ; kriyamaṇani guṇaiḥ; karmaṇi sarvasaḥ; [Bg. 3.27]. According to your guṇa you are creating your next body. Just like according to the infection of a certain disease you are creating your future diseased condition, similarly sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. There are three kinds of the modes of material nature, and as you associate with the three kinds of material nature, you prepare your next body. That is also explained in the Bhagavad-gita: urdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthaḥ; [Bg. 14.18]. If you associate with sattva-guṇa, then you are promoted to the higher planetary system: Janaloka, Maharloka, Tapoloka. But these rascals, they do not know; still they make an estimate. And what is that estimate? Wherever they go they find only rocks and sands. That's all. There are so many lokas. Each loka is full of living entities, and these rascals are simply taking photograph of rocks and sands. Just see their position. And they are passing on as scientist. How misleading these things are, and how people are being misled. You see.

So Kali-yuga is a very precarious condition: no knowledge, ignorance, and no nirvrtti. Everyone is in pravrtti. So whatever their condition may be, but if you want actually freedom from this material conditional life, then you should follow acarya. Acaryavan puruṣaḥ;. Acaryopasanam. Krṣṇa is personally acting as acarya. He's coming again as acarya, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He has got so many representatives acarya: Sri Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Nimbarka, Viṣṇu Svami, so many acaryas. Evaṁ parampara-praptam [Bg. 4.2]. So take lesson from the acaryas. Sukadeva Gosvami is acarya. Vyasadeva is acarya. He's making the next acarya by teaching him-adhyapayam asa, sukam adhyapayam asa—so that he is becoming acarya. So we have to go the acarya and take lesson. Then, in the previous verse we are advised,

yasyaṁ vai sruyamaṇayaṁ
krṣṇe parama-puruṣe
bhaktir utpadyate puṁsaḥ;
soka-moha-bhayapaha
[SB 1.7.7]

This is wanted. We are always perplexed with soka, moha and bhaya. If you want to get out of it, then read Srimad-Bhagavatam. Now if you are... If you say that "I'm uneducated, illiterate. I cannot read," there is no need of reading. Hear. Yasyaṁ vai sruyamaṇayam. Simply hear. But hear from the right person, Sukadeva Gosvami. Not rascals, professionals. Then it will be useless. Here... Why? Anyone knows some grammar or little literary education. Why...? Sukadeva Gosvami had no opportunity to go to a school. Sukadeva Gosvami... Sukadeva Gosvami, as soon as he took birth, after sixteen years keeping himself within the womb of the mother, immediately left home. So where is the possibility of taking education? And he was given instruction while he was in the womb of his mother.

So these things are sometimes inconceivable. But it is not inconceivable. It is possible to... Our real point is that Sukadeva Gosvami was not a grammarian, but he learned everything from his father by hearing. Therefore it is called sruyamaṇayam. If you hear from the right person, properly, then you become perfect. There is no need of literary education. Therefore Vedas are called sruti. Sruti means... Formerly the students, they were learning everything. Their memory was so nice and sharp that simply by hearing from guru's mouth they would learn. In the Kali-yuga, because the memory is not so str... [break] ...Vyasadeva recorded this in writing, that "The rascals will come henceforward. They will have not very sharp brain, memory, so let me keep this literature in writing so that in future they may take advantage of it. Or somebody will read and they will hear. In this way their life will be successful."

So Sukadeva Gosvami is the next acarya, but one has to learn from the original acarya. Evaṁ parampara-praptam imaṁ rajarṣayo viduḥ; [Bg. 4.2]. So unless we come to the parampara system, acarya after acarya, there is no right education. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu's private secretary, personal secretary, Svarupa Damodara, he advised, bhagavat para giya bhagavat sthane. If you want to learn Srimad-Bhagavatam, you go to a person whose life is Bhagavatam. Grantha bhagavata and person bhagavata—both of them bhagavatas. So bhagavat para giya bhagavat sthane. One whose life is Bhagavatam and nothing else, you should learn Bhagavatam from him, not from the professional person who are earning livelihood by reading or reciting Srimad-Bhagavatam. That will not be effective. You have to find out like Sukadeva Gosvami. Then this study of Srimad-Bhagavatam will be effective.

Thank you very much. (end)

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