Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

upadraṣṭanumanta ca
bharta bhokta mahesvaraḥ;
paramatmeti capy ukto
dehe 'smin puruṣaḥ; paraḥ;
[Bg. 13.23]

Translation: "Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer who is the Lord, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as the Supersoul."

Prabhupada: So there are two puruṣas. One puruṣa is already explained. Puruṣaḥ; prakrti-stho hi... (aside:) You can go. Puruṣaḥ; prakrti-stho hi bhuṅkte prakrti-jan guṇan [Bg. 13.22]. So one puruṣa, the living entity, atma, and another puruṣa is Paramatma. Sometimes the Mayavadi philosophers, they do not distinguish between atma and Paramatma. But here it is distinctly explained by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, that one puruṣa is enjoying the fruits of his activities, prakrti-sthaḥ;. Being influenced by the quality of the prakrti, material nature, he is sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu, he is taking birth in different types and species of life. And another puruṣa is there who is upadraṣṭa. Upadraṣṭa means he is overseer. He is simply seeing how the other puruṣa is working. And according to his karma, work, he is giving the result. He is the witness.

If the living entity puruṣa is working piously, then he is getting a different type of body. Janmaisvarya-sruta-sri [SB 1.8.26]. A nice body, born in rich man's family or brahmaṇa's family, scholar's family, janma, opulence, aisvarya, beauty, beautiful body, and very good education—these distinctions are there because the paramatma-puruṣa is observing the activities of the jivatma-puruṣa. And according to his karma according to his desire, He is giving a different type of body. Isvaraḥ; sarva...

Another place it is said, isvaraḥ; sarva-bhutanaṁ hrd-dese 'rjuna tiṣṭhati [Bg. 18.61]. "That Supreme Personality of Godhead as Paramatma, Antaryami, is situated in everyone's heart." Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantraruḍhani mayaya: [Bg. 18.61] "And He is directing maya to give him a particular type of body and he is moving with that body." Yantra. Just like if you get a car, according to the price, you can get car. You can get a Rolls Royce car, Chevrolet car, Cadillac car or a Ford car or Ambassador car or a Jeep. So as you can pay for it, you get a different type of car, and you can travel, similarly, according to your karma, good and bad, you are getting a type of body. There are eight million four hundred thousand species of body. You can get one of them and suffer and enjoy.

Tatha dehantara-praptiḥ; [Bg. 2.13]. You have to change your body. Next body you can get a cat's body or dog's body, a tree's body or a demigod's body or a Brahma's body or a Indra's body, Indian body, American body, serpent body, insect body, bird's body, aquatic, any, any, There is no guarantee. That will be awarded to you according to your karma. Unfortunately, they do not know it. Just like animals. The animals do not know how to get a better body.

asitiṁ caturas caiva
lakṣaṁs tañ jiva-jatiṣu
bhramadbhiḥ; puruṣaṁ prapyaṁ
manuṣyaṁ janma-paryayat

This is statement in the Padma Pur... Janma-paryayat, by evolution, we come to this human form of body, and in this human form of body, we have got the chance to develop Krṣṇa consciousness. And if we do not do that, then we are losing the opportunity, missing the opportunity.

Next body I shall get according to my karma. But if you become Krṣṇa conscious in this body, in this human form of body, and if you try to understand what is Krṣṇa, then tyaktva dehaṁ punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9], then after giving up this body, you do not accept another material body. This is Krṣṇa consciousness movement. We are trying to educate men to become Krṣṇa conscious so that he may not have to accept another material body.

So the other body, which is described here, Paramatma... We are atma, and He is Paramatma. We are isvara; He is Paramesvara. We are not Paramesvara. We are Brahman, He is Parabrahman. This "param" word is used. But sometimes men with little intelligence, they cannot distinguish between Paramatma and atma, Paramesvara and isvara. Here another word is used, bhokta mahesvaraḥ;. We are not bhokta. We are trying to become bhokta, or enjoyer, but we are becoming baffled. It is not possible. We cannot become bhokta. We can become being enjoyed, predominated, not the predominator. Just like one thing is enjoyed and the other is enjoyer. The Supreme Lord, He is the enjoyer. Bhoktaraṁ yajña-tapasaṁ sarva-loka-mahesvaram [Bg. 5.29].

The same word again, mahesvara. Maha isvara. Maha means great. Isvara means controller. So we can controller a few men, but Mahesvara means He controls all living entities. Nityo nityanaṁ cetanas cetananam (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). We may be very proud of controlling a factory, a few thousands of workers, but we are not Mahesvara. The Mahesvara is Krṣṇa, Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is in His Paramatma feature, is situated in every body. Paramatmeti ca apy ukto dehe 'smin, asmin dehe, within this body. It is also discussed that... What is that? Sarva-kṣetreṣu bharata. What is that? No. There is a... All right.

So Paramatma, there are two souls. Kṣetra-jña. Kṣetra, kṣetra-jña. The Arjuna's questions, I think, in this chapter. Kṣetra-jñaṁ capi maṁ viddhi sarva-kṣetreṣu bharata [Bg. 13.3]. Krṣṇa says that "I am also kṣetra-jña." The body is kṣetra, and the soul if kṣetra-jña, one who knows about the body. Just like you have got your body, I have got my body. And I know it is my body, you know it is your body. Just like your apartment, your living room. Similarly, there is another partner. That is Krṣṇa, Paramatma. Kṣetra-jñaṁ capi maṁ viddhi. I can take care of my body. I am the owner of this body. But Krṣṇa is the owner of all bodies.

Just like the landlord and the tenant—the tenant is the occupier and the landlord is the owner—similarly, I am the occupier of this body, and Krṣṇa, Paramatma, He is the owner of this body. This is knowledge. I am not the owner of this body. Therefore Krṣṇa's another name is Hrṣikesa. Hrṣika means the senses. We are claiming, "This is my hand," but this is not my hand. This is Krṣṇa's hand. The same thing. The tenant may occupy the room, but he is not the owner of the room. Owner is different person. Similarly, we may occupy this body or any body, but we are not owner of this body. As soon as we know that "I am not owner of this body, I am the occupier of the body," that is knowledge. We are falsely claiming that "We are owner of the body." We are not owner of the body. I cannot therefore repair anything. If any part of my limb of my body goes wrong, I do not know how to repair it. But Krṣṇa can do it because He is the owner, Hrṣikesa. Hrṣikesa. Hrṣikeṇa hrṣikesa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. You have to pay to the owner. Similarly, we have to serve Krṣṇa for occupying this body. That is devotion. Yajñarthe karmaṇo 'nyatra loko 'yaṁ karma-bandhanaḥ; [Bg. 3.9].

Because it is also explained, sarvataḥ; paṇi-padaṁ tat. Sarvataḥ; paṇi-padaṁ tat means everywhere the Supreme Lord has got His hands and legs. So what is that? How He has got hands and legs? Your hands, my hands, they are hands of Krṣṇa. Therefore it should be used for Krṣṇa. Just like your hand. We are claiming, "This is my hand." This hand is used for my service. Suppose If you want to eat something, you use your hand for eating, but for other's eating, you don't use your hand. He uses his own hand. This is an example. So all these hands and legs belong to Krṣṇa. It should be used for Krṣṇa. That is called bhakti. Hrṣikeṇa hrṣikesa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170].

If you don't use, then that is against the laws of nature. So upadraṣṭa anumanta. Krṣṇa, the Supersoul, is anumanta. Anumanta means without His permission you cannot do anything. You cannot do anything. Because everything belongs to Krṣṇa, how you can use something without permission? So anumanta. And upadraṣṭa. Just like father and son, little child. He wants to do something and wants permission from the father or the mother. And he gives. In our childhood I remember that even for going to the privy I wanted permission of my mother, "Can I go?" That is nature. That is nature. Mother is not restricting me; still, I am asking the permission of mother. "Can I go? Can I go?" I remember it. This is natural. Similarly, we cannot do anything without the permission of the Supersoul within the heart. Sarvasya cahaṁ hrdi sanniviṣṭo mattaḥ; smrtir jñanam apohanaṁ ca [Bg. 15.15]. Without permission. Therefore He is anumanta.

So when we do something wrong, how Krṣṇa as antaryami, as Paramatma, gives permission? This question may be raised. But He gives permission, when I do something wrong. Because I cannot do anything without His permission. But He gives me permission as a... Karaṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya. That is already explained.

puruṣaḥ; prakrti-stho hi
bhuṅkte prakrti-jan guṇan
karaṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya
sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu
[Bg. 13.22]

He can give you permission, but the enjoyment and suffering will have to be taken by you. You insist permission, "I want to do this." And without permission, you cannot do it. Therefore Krṣṇa gives you per..., "All right, you do it, but at your risk." Krṣṇa does not want that you should do it, but you want to do it. Therefore He gives permission.

He wants sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekaṁ saraṇam [Bg. 18.66]. That is His demand. But your demand is different, that "I shall not surrender, Sir. I want to do this." "All right, you do it at your own risk." But if you follow the instruction of Krṣṇa, then He takes charge of you. Ahaṁ tvaṁ sarva-papebhyo mokṣayiṣyami. So you do papa or puṇya, you enjoy the effect, but when you follow the instruction of Krṣṇa, there is no such papa or puṇya. It is transcendental. Brahman. That is called Brahman. And above the guṇas. Sa guṇan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. Maṁ ca yo 'vyabhicareṇa bhakti-yogena sevate [Bg. 14.26]. Krṣṇa says, "Anyone who is engaged in rendering service unto Me," bhakti-yogena, sa guṇan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate, he is not affected by the activities. He is immune from the result of all activities." Many places it is said. Yajñarthe karmaṇo 'nyatra loko 'yaṁ karma-bandhanaḥ; [Bg. 3.9].

If you want to do for your satisfaction, Krṣṇa will give you permission, but you will have to enjoy or suffer the effects. Karmaṇa daiva-netreṇa [SB 3.31.1]. It is very simple to understand. So therefore Krṣṇa is called anumanta, "giving permission," "Yes, you can take. You can do it." Anumanta upadraṣṭa.

And so far our activities are concerned... This is also explained in the Upaniṣads, that there are two birds in this tree body. One is observing and other is enjoying. So the observing bird is the Paramatma, Krṣṇa. He is upadraṣṭa. He is simply seeing your activities, how you are doing, and giving you the effect. And anumanta. Krṣ..., He does not want it. What you are doing now, Krṣṇa does not want it. But because you wanted persistently to do it, so He gives permission because without His permission, you cannot do it. This is the conclusion. Upadraṣṭa anumanta, bharta.

He is the maintainer. You cannot get anything without His mercy. There may be ample supply of necessities of life by the grace of Krṣṇa, and there may be scarcity. So they are now complaining about overpopulation. There is no question of overpopulation. Krṣṇa is quite competent, able to maintain everyone. But as you become godless, as you become disobedient to the laws of God, there will be restriction. You cannot have full supply of necessities of life. That time has already come. All these rascals, godless rascals, they are now suffering.

The only remedy is to become devotee. He is bharta. He can maintain many millions. There is no question of overpopulation. He can maintain. Bharta. But nature will not supply. Nature will restrict supply if you become godless. Therefore nature is very strong, strict. Daivi hy eṣa guṇamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. He'll restrict supply.

So in this Kali-yuga people are degrading, and the supply also will be reduced. There will be no supply of milk, there will be no supply of sugar. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. There will be no supply of rice, no supply of wheat. Now you can get black market, white market, but time is coming when there will be no supply, completely. You will be forced to eat this beef. Now it is opening, beef shop, big, big beef shop. This time has already come, gradually, and it will be increasing. Unless you take to Krṣṇa consciousness. Kirtanad eva krṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ; paraṁ vrajet [SB 12.3.51]. Kaler doṣa-nidhe rajann asti hy eko mahan guṇaḥ;. This Kali-yuga is suffering. So you cannot get comfortable life in this Kali-yuga being godless. Because Kali-yuga means godless. Mandaḥ; sumanda-matayo manda-bhagya hy upadrutaḥ; [SB 1.1.10].

So therefore everyone should take to Krṣṇa consciousness to save himself from the onslaught of Kali-yuga, which will increase day by day. Thank you very much. (end)

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