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Bombay, October 6, 1973

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Pradyumna: (leads synonyms)

jñeyaṠyat tat pravakṣyami
yaj jñatva 'mrtam asnute
anadimat paraá¹ brahma
na sat tan nasad ucyate

"I shall now explain the knowable, knowing which you will taste the eternal. This is beginningless, and it is subordinate to Me. It is called Brahman, the spirit, and it lies beyond the cause and effect of this material world."

Prabhupada: So this chapter is explanation of the knower and knowledge... The knowledge, the chapter has already explained, in order to make progress in the line of knowledge there were about twenty items: amanitvam adambhitvam ahiá¹sa ká¹£antir arjavam [Bg. 13.8]. These are the process, not to become falsely proud of possessing knowledge. There are symptoms that who is actually in knowledge and those symptoms have been explained. Amanitvam adambhitvam ahiá¹sa ká¹£antir arjavam. The most important... Of course, all the items are very important. Still, approaching the acarya... [break] ...portion of Krṣṇa. Racayituá¹ jagad-aṇá¸a-koá¹­im. One portion, Paramatma. That Paramatma portion is the Maha-Viṣṇu, Maha-Viṣṇu lying on the Karaṇarṇava, the Causal Ocean.

yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya
jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-aṇá¸a-nathaḥ;
viṣṇur mahan sa iha yasya kala-viseṣo
govindam adi-puruá¹£aá¹ tam ahaá¹ bhajami
[Bs. 5.48]

That Maha-Viṣṇu is lying on the Causal Ocean beyond this universe, on the border, there is a big ocean which is called Causal Ocean, karaṇodaka-jala. And there is Maha-Viṣṇu lying, and from His breathing process, yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-aṇá¸a-nathaḥ; [Bs. 5.48]. Jagad-aṇá¸a-natha means Brahma. So that portion, eko 'py asau racayitum, He is the origin of universal, this material creation. Karaṇarṇavasayi Viṣṇu. From Him, the Garbhodakasayi Viṣṇu comes out, and He enters in each and every universes. Garbhodakasayi Viṣṇu. That Garbhodakasayi Viṣṇu again expands as Ká¹£irodakasayi Viṣṇu. That Ká¹£irodakasayi Viṣṇu is within this universe. In each and every universe there is Viṣṇu, Svetadvipa-loka where Ká¹£irodakasayi Viṣṇu is there, and that Ká¹£irodakasayi Viṣṇu enters within the heart of all living entities, Paramatma, Antaryami.

That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita, eko 'py asau racayituá¹ jagad-aṇá¸a-koá¹­iá¹ yac-chaktir asti jagad-aṇá¸a-caya yad-antaḥ; aṇá¸antara-stha... [Bs. 5.35]. He is not only within this universe, but He is also within the atom. Aṇá¸antara-stha-paramaṇu-cayantara... Paramaṇu means atom. In this way Lord Viṣṇu is expanded, and He is jñeyam, He is to be understood. Jñana, knowledge, simply material knowledge, is not perfection of knowledge. Real knowledge is to understand the Supreme Absolute Truth, Viṣṇu. That is real knowledge. That is explained here. Jñeyaá¹ yat tat pravaká¹£yami: "I shall now explain to you what is the ultimate goal of knowledge." In other place, in the Fifteenth Chapter also, Krṣṇa said,

sarvasya cahaṠhrdi sanniviṣṭo
mattaḥ; smrtir jñanam apohanaṠca
vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ;...
[Bg. 15.15]

Krṣṇa is within everyone's heart, sarvasya ca ahaṠhrdi. This place, the particular place is also mentioned there. Hrdi, in the heart, He's there. Sanniviṣṭaḥ;. And from Him, mattaḥ; smrtir jñanam apohanaṠca. From Him, our remembrance, smrtir jñanam, knowledge, and forgetfulness—everything is coming from Him. Mattaḥ; smrtir jñanam apohanaṠca. Therefore, vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ; [Bg. 15.15]. One has to understand Krṣṇa by studying Vedic literature. If he's missing Krṣṇa, then srama eva hi kevalam, he's missing Krṣṇa. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,

dharmaḥ; svanuṣṭhitaḥ; puá¹saá¹
viṣvaksena-kathasu yaḥ;
notpadayed yadi ratiá¹
srama eva hi kevalam
[SB 1.2.8]

Everyone has got particular type of occupational duty. That is called dharma. Dharma is not a faith. The particular duty... Just like you are a medical practitioner. So your dharma is to treat patients. That is your dharma. So everyone has got particular occupational duty. [break] Actually, what is going on as Hindu dharma... Actually, Hindu dharma this word is not there in the sastras. In the sastra it is called varṇasrama-dharma. Four varṇas: brahmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaisya, sudra; and four asramas: brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha, and sannyasa. These are called varṇasrama-dharma. So in every varṇa, brahmaṇa, his qualification is described in the sastra. Samo damas titikṣa arjavaṠkṣantir jñanaṠvijñanam astikyaṠbrahma-karma svabhava-jam [Bg. 18.42]. Similarly, kṣatriya, vaisya. So by discharging one's occupational duty according to varṇa and asrama, if one does not understand Krṣṇa, the Bhagavata says, srama eva hi kevalam. Then he's simply spoiling his time and wasting his labor. That's all.

dharmaḥ; svanuṣṭhitaḥ; puá¹saá¹
viṣvaksena-kathasu yaḥ;
notpadayed yadi ratiá¹
srama eva hi kevalam
[SB 1.2.8]

This is the verdict of Vedic literature. He's simply laboring for nothing. One must know Krṣṇa-viṣvaksena-kathasu yaḥ;. Viṣvaksena, another name of Krṣṇa, or Viṣṇu, is viṣvaksena-katha. Just like we are speaking about Krṣṇa, nobody is interested to come here. Nobody is interested. Viṣvaksena-kathasu notpadayed ratim. They will say, "Oh, I am busy with my occupational duty." But the human form of life is meant for increasing your interest in the matter of viṣvaksena-kathasu yaḥ;. This means krṣṇa-katha.

This is the mission of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Lord Caitanya. Lord Caitanya, His mission is this: He said,

yare dekha tare kaha 'krṣṇa'-upadesa
amara ajñaya guru haña tara' ei desa
[Cc. Madhya 7.128]

Krṣṇa-upadesa. He says, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that "On My order, every one of My devotees, become a spiritual master." Amara ajñaya guru haña tara' ei desa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. "You become a spiritual master and deliver all the people." By krṣṇa-upadesa, you can deliver. People are suffering. Here also, the same thing is said. JñeyaṠyat tat pravakṣyami yaj jñatva 'mrtam asnute. Amrtam. People are suffering. They do not know what is amrtatva. So 'mrtatvaya kalpate. This is the aim of life, to become immortal. That is wanted. One has to come to that platform of knowledge when one can achieve the perfection of life, amrtatva, immortality.

So Krṣṇa says here that jñeyaṠyat tat pravakṣyami: "The ultimate goal of knowledge I will explain to you. Yaj jñatva: "If you can understand that knowledge, then," amrtam asnute, "if anyone can understand that knowledge, he becomes immortal." That is the problem. The process of knowledge... In that chapter it is already said that janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duḥ;kha-doṣanudarsanam [Bg. 13.9]. The subject matter should be how to understand or how to get relief from the repetition of birth and death, old age and disease. This is knowledge. And here also Krṣṇa says again, anyone who comes to the ultimate goal of knowledge, then he becomes immortal.

Anadimat paraṠbrahma. Brahma, brahma-jñana. The brahma-jñana without knowledge of Krṣṇa is not perfect knowledge. Generally, people are interested... (aside:) Give me water. In the impersonal Brahman, but without knowledge of Krṣṇa that impersonal feature of Krṣṇa, brahma-jñana, is also insufficient. They do not... That is not sufficient knowledge. Tattva-jñanartha-darsanam. Philosophical speculation or discussion should be to reach the ultimate goal of life. Tattva-jñanartha-darsanam. That is already explained. And what is that tattva? That is explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, what is tattva. Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam [SB 1.2.11]. Tattva-vid, one who knows tattva, he can speak about tattva. Tattva means the Absolute Truth. So vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam. That thing is spoken as tattva, as the truth, by persons who are tattva-vid. Tattva-vid means one who knows the tattva. Unless one knows the thing, how he can explain? Therefore we have to understand the Absolute Truth from a person who knows it. Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvaṠyaj jñanam advayam [SB 1.2.11]. That knowledge is absolute, advayam, no relativity, absolute.

vadanti tat tattva-vidas
tattvaṠyaj jñanam advayam
brahmeti paramatmeti
bhagavan iti sabdyate
[SB 1.2.11]

That truth is explained as Brahman, as Paramatma, or as Bhagavan. The same thing. Just like we see the sun. The sun is a planet and there is a sun-god. Just like we have got also in each and every planet one chief person. Here we have got president. Formerly there was one president or king on this planet. Now they have now so many presidents. But according to God's plan, there is one president or king in each and every planet. So in the sun planet there is also one king or one chief person. His name is also given in the Bhagavad-gita, Vivasvan. If you accept Bhagavad-gita, then you have to accept all these things. You cannot make minus anything. That is not knowledge of Bhagavad-gita.

Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is. We cannot use the ardha-kukkuṭi-nyaya [Cc. Adi-lila 5.176]—half. I take half of the hen. I take the rear part, and the front part I reject. This kind of logic, argument, will not be very successful. You have to take as it is, in toto, and you have to understand That is understanding of Bhagavad-gita. If you take something to your choice, that is useless, useless waste of time. Just like Mahatma Gandhi, he wanted to prove from Bhagavad-gita nonviolence. How it is possible? Bhagavad-gita is spoken in the battlefield. So in this way, if we try to understand Bhagavad-gita, it will be not Bhagavad-gita, it will be something else. We must understand Bhagavad-gita as it is. That is our preaching method. We are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is all over the world. So we accept.

The modern theory, scientific theory, is that "The sun planet is only blazing fire. There cannot be any living entity." No, we don't believe that. Because sastra says that "The living entity is never burned." Acchedyo 'yam adahyo 'yam. Adahyaḥ;. Just like we sterilize by putting into the fire, but that does not mean the living entity is dead. No. Adahyo 'yam: "It cannot be burned into fire." Acchedyo 'yam: "It cannot be cut into pieces." This information we get from Bhagavad-gita. So in the sun planet, although it is blazing fire, there are living entities. They have got a particular type of body. That particular type of body is fiery. Just like you have got living entities in the sea. There are hundreds and thousands. Jalaja nava-lakṣaṇi. There are nine lakhs, species of aquatic animals. But they are living in the water. They have got particular type of body. You cannot say, because you cannot live within the water, you cannot say, "No, no, there cannot be any living entity." This is nonsense. The living entities, another name is sarva-ga. He can live everywhere. It is not a fact that living entities live only in certain particular place. No. Sarva-ga, anywhere in God's creation there are living entities. This is shastric vision.

So in the sun planet also, there are living entities, cities, just like here. Otherwise how Krṣṇa can say, imaṠvivasvate yogaṠproktavan aham avyayam [Bg. 4.1]. Krṣṇa is telling lie, that "I spoke this science of Bhagavad-gita to the sun-god?" Now, according to our calculation nobody can go to the sun planet, and where is the scope of speaking there, and to whom speaking? But Krṣṇa says, "Yes." ImaṠvivasvate yogaṠproktavan aham [Bg. 4.1], "I said," avyayam, "imperishable knowledge." Vivasvan manave praha. So from this version we can understand, in the sun planet there are living entities, and the chief man, or chief demigod, is the sun-god, whose name is Vivasvan. So his body must be fiery; otherwise how he can live there? And the inhabitants there also. So we are thinking from here that nobody can live there, but that's not the fact. We are calculating via our own experience. Therefore we cannot have perfect knowledge by speculating our experience. It is not possible. We must go to a person whose experience is beyond our experience. That is called guru. Tad-vijñanarthaṠsa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. Guru means heavy. If guru is as good as I am, then what is the use of taking knowledge from him? Guru must be heavier.

So who can become more heavier than Krṣṇa? Mattaḥ; parataraṠnanyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya [Bg. 7.7]. There is nobody heavier. And Krṣṇa proved it when He was a child. When He was a boy of seven years old He proved how heavy, that He lifted the Govardhana Hill, and it rested on Krṣṇa's finger continually for seven days. Just imagine how heavy He is. So in this way we have to understand Krṣṇa. And if we understand Krṣṇa from that spirit, from that angle of vision, then we become perfect. As it is said here, jñeyaṠyat tat pravakṣyami yaj jñatva 'mrtam asnute. You become immortal. This is confirmed in the Fourth Chapter. Janma karma me divyaṠyo janati tattvataḥ;. If you simply understand Krṣṇa in truth, not superficially, but in fact, then what is the result? The result is tyaktva dehaṠpunar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. Punar janma, punar janma, next, again if I take a material body, then again I'll have to die. Anyone who has got this material body, he has to die. Janma-mrtyu. One who is born, he must die. But here Krṣṇa says, punar janma naiti. "No more birth." Then there is no more death. Because if there is birth, there is death, and if there is no birth, there is no death. That is immortality, amrta. That is amrtatva. So amrtatvaya kalpate. In another place Krṣṇa says,

yaá¹ hi na vyathayanty ete
puruá¹£aá¹ puruá¹£ará¹£abha
sama-duḥ;kha-sukhaá¹ dhiraá¹
so 'mrtatvaya kalpate

We are disturbed by the bodily concepts of life, every one of us. Everyone is busy how to relieve the bodily pains and pleasures. That's all. The real pains and pleasure: that the living entity who has accepted this material body, he has to continue these pains and pleasure. That is explained in the Bhagavad, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi [Bg. 13.9]. So you there is no science to give relief from janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. How can expect relief? It is temporary relief. So Krṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gita, we should not be disturbed by the temporary pains and pleasure.

matra-sparsas tu kaunteya
sitoṣṇa-sukha-duḥ;kha-daḥ;
agamapayino 'nityas
taá¹s titiká¹£asva bharata
[Bg. 2.14]

We should not be disturbed by these so-called bodily pains and pleasure. We can try, we can get as much... But this is not our business. Our business is how to get out of these clutches of birth and death. That is real business. That they do not know. Because they have no knowledge. All fools and rascals, they are busy for the temporary pains and pleasure. That's all.

So here it is said, jñeyaá¹ yat tat pravaká¹£yami yaj jñatva 'mrtam asnute. That is knowledge. "I shall speak to you about that supreme knowledge." That supreme knowledge means if you simply try to understand Krṣṇa, janma karma me divyam [Bg. 4.9], why Krṣṇa appears, janma karma, why He works like an ordinary human being... He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Why he takes part in these ordinary activities? Just like Krṣṇa took part in the Battle of Kuruká¹£etra. He's Supreme Personality of Godhead; why should He take part in the battleground? Yes this is..., somebody, some section of people, they question like this. But He has his business. Because He comes, He has got His business. He says, dharma-saá¹sthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge: "I come. My business is to reestablish the principle of life, religion."

Human life means religion. Dharmeṇa hinaḥ; pasubhiḥ; samanaḥ;. The cats and dogs, they have no religion. But if the human being has no religion, then he is no better than the cat and dog. Therefore all over the world, either he's a European or American or Indian or Canadian or Russian, everyone has got some religion. It doesn't matter whether it is Hinduism, Muslimism or Christianism. Because human society without religious conception—religious conception means to understand God—he's animal. Dharmeṇa hinaḥ; pasubhiḥ; samanaḥ;. So gradually, the whole world is becoming animal because they are rejecting religion. They are rejecting religion. Therefore Krṣṇa says, dharma-saá¹sthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge. Because these rascals, they give up religion and become animals and fight between themselves and make the whole world a confusion and chaos, therefore it is required that Krṣṇa comes. Dharma-saá¹sthapanarthaya. This is His duty. He has no duty, but it is His mercy that He comes. Dharma-saá¹sthapanarthaya.

And what is that dharma? In the Bhagavata it is explained, dharmaá¹ tu saká¹£ad bhagavat-praṇitam [SB 6.3.19]. You cannot manufacture a religious sect. That is rascaldom. Just like if you think, "I shall manufacture law at my home," is it possible? Who will care for your law? If the law is enacted by the state, that is accepted. The government says, "Keep to the left." You have to accept it. You cannot say, "No, why not to the right?" Then you'll be criminal. Similarly, laws means given by the government, and dharma means which is the codes given by God. That is dharma. Dharmaá¹ tu saká¹£ad bhagavat-praṇitam [SB 6.3.19]. That is religion. And Krṣṇa says, dharma-saá¹sthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge: "I come to reestablish. When people become cats and dogs without any religion, then I come down to establish religion." Because we are Krṣṇa's sons, we are all sons of Krṣṇa, He is very much anxious to see us happy. Just like father wants to see his sons, bewildered sons, to see that he is happy. Paritraṇaya sadhunaá¹ vinasaya ca duá¹£krtam [Bg. 4.8]. That is also the same thing. To deliver the righteous person and to kill the demons, the same thing, because Krṣṇa is absolute. His maintaining the devotee and killing the demon, both of them are same thing.

Just like father. Father is giving some child, some son, nice sweetmeat, and the other son comes, "No you cannot take it." Does it mean that father is partial? No, father is kind both the child. He knows that he cannot eat. So similarly, two things are going on parallel. Some are punishments, some are maintenance by the laws of God, but he knows how to do it. We have to accept His law. That is... Tat te 'nukampaṠsu-samikṣamaṇaḥ; [SB 10.14.8]. Therefore a devotee is never disturbed by the so-called pains and pleasure of this world. He is never disturbed. He knows his duty, how to execute Krṣṇa consciousness. That is real devotee. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam [Bg. 18.66].

So Krṣṇa said that dharma-saá¹sthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge. Then what is that dharma? He did not come here to reestablish Hinduism or Muslimism or Christianism. No. He came to give you real dharma. What is that? Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekaá¹ saraṇaá¹ vraja [Bg. 18.66]. That is dharma, to surrender unto Krṣṇa: "Krṣṇa, I am eternally Your servant. I forgot You. Now I come to my senses. I surrender unto You." This is dharma. Bahunaá¹ janmanam ante jñanavan maá¹ prapadyate [Bg. 7.19]. This sense, real sense, comes when after struggling, struggling for many, many births, one becomes wise. Bahunaá¹ janmanam ante jñanavan. Jñanavan means wise. Not fools and rascals. Jñanavan maá¹ prapadyate: "He surrenders unto Me." So anyone who is surrendering to Krṣṇa, taking to Krṣṇa or devotional service fully, he is the most intelligent man. He's not cats and dogs or rascals. Because Krṣṇa says, jñanavan. This is real knowledge. That will be explained.

Krṣṇa says, jñeyaṠyat tat pravakṣyami "I shall speak to you what is the object of knowledge, ultimate objective of knowledge." Yaj jñatva 'mrtam asnute. If one can understand Krṣṇa he gets eternal life. That is our aim of life. Not to remain within this material world, bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19], take birth once and again die. This is done by the cats and dogs. Any animal, they do not know anything. They take birth and again die. Dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaraṠyauvanaṠjara, tatha dehantara-praptiḥ; [Bg. 2.13]. You have to accept. So if in ignorance I take birth and again die, what is this life? Bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]. That is no knowledge. Spoiling. This human form of life is the boon where you can make a solution simply by understanding Krṣṇa. Janma karma me divyaṠyo janati tattvataḥ;, tyaktva dehaṠpunar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. This is knowledge, how to become immortal, how to understand Krṣṇa, how to go back to home, back to Godhead. That is the mission of Krṣṇa consciousness. Thank you very much. Hare Krṣṇa. (end)

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