Brahmananda: ...six and 1975 is seventy-nine years?

Prabhupada: Seventy-nine complete. Now, from first September, eightieth begins. Beginning eightieth. The age is taken... So we are not going to... Where?

Harikesa: Actually we don't know.

Jayapataka: Get Tejas. Where is Tejas?

Devotee (1): He's coming now.

Brahmananda: There's some park near here, he said? Indian gate?

Prabhupada: No, no. He said we shall go to Indian gate?

Harikesa: Where you usually go?

Prabhupada: Is there any car?

Harikesa: Is there a car?

Brahmananda: There's no car.

Jayapataka: He said he knew a short walk.

Harikesa: Where is Tejas? [break]

Prabhupada: ...that house?

Brahmananda: They couldn't contact the man yesterday so they did not see it. [break]

Prabhupada: The daughter rises early in the morning? Your daughter?

Woman devotee (2): Yes. She comes to mangala-arati every day.

Prabhupada: Oh. That's nice. Good qualification.

Harikesa: Is there a fan? A fan. A fan.

Prabhupada: What is that?

Brahmananda: He wanted one fan.

Prabhupada: Fan? No.

Harikesa: The reason is flies. They're terrible. [break]

Jayapataka: ...Srila Prabhupada, the deputy director of tourism of the government of West Bengal came out to visit Mayapur. He said that many people have been wanting to see Mayapur and Navadvipa. And the nearest guesthouse they have is Berhampur. They have a guest house at Berhampur. So they wanted to know the possibility if a bus of twenty-four people could use our guesthouse. They offered thirty rupees a night per room and said that normally they pay six rupees per meal. They wouldn't smoke or break any rules while they go in the building.

Prabhupada: That's nice. Let them come. So in one room, one person?

Jayapataka: Two people. Double room.

Prabhupada: Thirty-two rupees?

Jayapataka: Thirty rupees.

Prabhupada: Thirty rupees. And meals?

Jayapataka: Six rupees a meal they are accustomed to pay.

Prabhupada: That's very nice.

Jayapataka: Either rice, dahl, and...

Prabhupada: Capati.

Jayapataka: And sabji. Otherwise puri and sabji.

Prabhupada: That's nice. Why not begin immediately?

Jayapataka: Yes.

Bhagavata: Also that other man approached, that farm person?

Jayapataka: Of course, that... [break]

Prabhupada: ...self-independent, or self dependent.

Bhagavata: If we build up enough trade, tourist trade, like that in the guesthouse, then Mayapur can maintain itself very easily.

Prabhupada: So do it. [break] ...of the modern civilization, they are thinking that having such nice house, nice motorcar, nice road, nice machine, nice dress, nice woman, they will be happy. This is advancement of civilization. What is this? Don't drink, don't smoke, no meat, simply denying, denying? This is civilization. They think "This is practical. And after death who is going to take care?" Bhasmi-bhutasya dehasya kutaḥ; punar-agamano bhavet: "When the body is finished, burning into ashes, who is coming, and who is responsible?" This is atheistic civilization. [break] ...artha-maninaḥ;. External energy, that is everything. Within the body there is the soul. They deny it. There is no soul, body is everything, and enjoy bodily enjoyment. That's all. And our philosophy immediately condemns that "Anyone who is in the bodily concept of life, he is sa eva go-kharaḥ; [SB 10.84.13]; he is animal." So this is a park?

Indian man: A small park.

Prabhupada: Huh? Hare Krsna. [break]

Gopala Krsna: There's a lot of parks of this type.

Prabhupada: ...India Gate?

Tejas: India Gate is this way, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Oh. You have to go this side or this side?

Tejas: Yes.

Prabhupada: Ravindra Thakur?

Tejas: Ravindra Bhavan.

Prabhupada: Yes. I sold my books here. When I was alone, I was selling books.

Gopala Krsna: You would go to different libraries and colleges?

Prabhupada: Especially colleges and libraries. Everyone was taking.

Bhagavata: Even the prime minister, Lal Bahadur Sastri, you gave him book.

Prabhupada: Yes. He was good man.

Gopala Krsna: He was very religious. I think if he would have been there today we would have had no problem.

Prabhupada: Very good. (Hindi) He could not solve his own problem. [break] ...court? No.

Tejas: This is Mundi House.

Prabhupada: Mundi House means?

Tejas: Maharaja of Mundi. Now it's a television studio.

Prabhupada: Rajwari garden, they are serious about?

Tejas: He is serious. This morning I will go there because I tried to contact them yesterday and was not able to. We will go first thing this morning, after we get back. [break]

Prabhupada: You put forth such new, I think. It was not before. But they have supplied so rotten materials.

Gopala Krsna: Breaking. [break]

Prabhupada: ...class in the temple?

Gopala Krsna: Yes.

Prabhupada: At what time?

Gopala Krsna: Actually the class, the morning class is over, but we can... Delhi has a different schedule.

Brahmananda: Class is at five o'clock.

Gopala Krsna: There's a Bhagavad-gita class in the evening.

Prabhupada: What is this building?

Tejas: This is Ayana Bhavan. [break]

Prabhupada: ...Balarama's. So fasting.

Tejas: Yes. Till noon?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Gopala Krsna: Then a feast?

Prabhupada: Hm. [break] Who is he?

Brahmananda: He's some Italian astronomer. He invented the telescope.

Prabhupada: Invented telescope?

Brahmananda: So they could speculate about the stars and planets. [break]

Gopala Krsna: ...all the British names out and replaced them with Italian and Indian and other names.

Tejas: Many Muslim names they have replaced also. Because they are supposed to be historical. [break]

Prabhupada: This is the road. This is the bus. [break]

Tejas: Many of the members are reading the books now, Srila Prabhupada. One man, he is coming tonight. He has read your Bhagavad-gita six times now. He is very enthusiastic. Now he is thinking that he has wasted his whole life. That's the way he talks.

Prabhupada: Yes. If he comes to that conclusion, then he becomes perfect.

Tejas: He told me, "I have read so many Bhagavad-gitas previously, but never was the commentation clear. I could not understand the meaning."

Prabhupada: Yes. They simply jugglery of words.

Tejas: All impersonal.

Bhagavata: There was one man in Calcutta. You stayed in his house just before you left for America, and later he became a sannyasi. He sings bhajans. He became a sannyasi later. He knew you very well. You had written him a letter, and he just recently became a patron, and he is reading your books now also. I have forgotten his name, but he knew you very, very well. He used to sing bhajans. [break]

Prabhupada: ...dranatha statue? [break] ...some contribution through that... What is that temple? No, no, Chandi Chowk?

Tejas: Accha. Gauri Shankar.

Prabhupada: Gauri Shankar. I think, that Sita Ram? Sita Ram? He is living or not?

Tejas: Which Sita Ram?

Prabhupada: He is one Mr. Sita Ram. He was secretary. Sita Ram barrister. So he introduced me there, and they agreed to pay me 1,500.

Tejas: For the books.

Prabhupada: No. For some paper.

Tejas: He is friends with Bim Sen, but he is not like Bim Sen. He's a different bird.

Prabhupada: Bim Sen? (Dogs barking)

Tejas: He's associated with Bim Sen in some projects.

Prabhupada: Who is Bim Sen?

Tejas: Bim Sen, he comes with the...

Prabhupada: Oh. So sweetmeat market?

Tejas: Yes. That sweetmeat market. [break]

Prabhupada: ...was a Hindu minister, chief minister of Akbar. Emperor Akbar, his chief minister was Todarmal.

Tejas: Babar was also a minister of his?

Prabhupada: Babar was father of Akbar, Babar.

Tejas: These are all Muslim names here.

Prabhupada: It was Muslim kingdom. Todarmal is Hindu. The Muslim emperors, they used to employ Hindus as chief of department.

Tejas: Like Rupa Gosvami.

Prabhupada: They did not believe Muslims to become the chief. They knew it very well that these Muslims are not reliable. They can kill their father even. (end)