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Bombay, November 17, 1975

Purport

Prabhupada:

eka-desa-sthitasyagner
jyotsna vistariṇi yatha
parasya brahmaṇaḥ; saktis
tathedam akhilaᚁ jagat

We were discussing this verse last Sunday night. So the example is given: just like fire is localized in a place but the heat and light is expanded. The vivid example we can see, the sun. The sun globe is situated in one place—every one of us, we can see—and the heat and light is distributed throughout the whole universe. According to our Vedic conception, the sun is moving round, not the sun is the center. It is in the center of the universe, but it is going round. Kala-cakra. It is called kala-cakra. In Brahma-saṁhita it is said,

yac-cakṣur eṣa savita sakala-grahaṇaṁ
raja samasta-sura-murtir aseᚣa-tejaḼ;
yasyajĂąaya bhramati sambhrta-kala-cakro
govindam adi-puruᚣaᚁ tam ahaᚁ bhajami

From Bhagavatam we understand sun is not fixed up in one place but it is going round. And the whole universal planetary system, they are also moving, making the polestar, making the polestar as the pivot.

So we can see that sun is in the center of the universe, but it is illuminating and heating the whole universe. Similarly, Krṣṇa is situated in his own abode, Goloka Vrndavana, but by distribution of His different energies He is all-pervading. This is idea. When you speak God "all-pervading"—His energy. But He is not different from His energy. Sakti-saktimatayor abheda. Saktiman, the energetic, and the energy, they are not different. In the Bhagavad-gita also it is said—Krṣṇa says—maya tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagat avyakta-murtina: [Bg. 9.4] "I am situated all over the universe in My avyakta form, nonmanifested form." The manifested form is Krṣṇa. That is in Goloka Vrndavana. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate [Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]. He is distributed all over the universe, everywhere. Aṇḍantara-stha-paramaṇu-cayantara-stham [Bs. 5.35]. He is within the universe, aṇḍantara-stham, and paramaṇu-cayantara-stham, within the atom also. That is all-pervading. Sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. So this is to be understood. The God is simultaneously localized and all-pervading. The Mayavadi philosophers, they think materially, that "If God is all-pervading, why He should be localized?" Why He should not be? That is answer. God is not under your dictation. He is all-powerful. He can do so. Remaining in His own place, He can be distributed. He can distribute Himself everywhere. Aṇḍantara-stha-paramaṇu-cayantara-stham. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam [Bs. 5.33].

eko 'py asau racayituṁ jagad-aṇḍa-koṭiṁ
yac-caktir asti jagad-aṇḍa-caya yad-antaḥ;
aṇḍantara-stha-paramaṇu-cayantara-sthaṁ
govindam adi-puruᚣaᚁ tam ahaᚁ bhajami

This is the conception of all-pervading.

So eka-desa-sthitasyagner jyotsna vistariṇi yatha, parasya brahmaṇaḥ; saktiḥ;. So we should understand presence of God everywhere by His energy. Parasya brahmaṇaḥ; saktis tathedam akhilaṁ jagat. There are many places in Bhagavad-gita it is also said,

atha va bahunaitena
kiᚁ jùatena tavarjuna
viᚣᚭabhyaham idaᚁ krtsnam
ekaᚁsena sthito jagat
[Bg. 10.42]

Ekaᚁsena sthito. As Paramatma, He is situated everywhere. Then Caitanya Mahaprabhu says,

krṣṇera svabhavika tina-sakti-pariṇati
cic-chakti jiva-sakti ara maya-sakti

So everything is parasya brahmaṇaḥ; sakti. Whatever we see, that is manifestation of the Supreme Lord's different energies. The example is the fire and the heat and light. That's all. So heat is the material energy, and light is the spiritual energy. Just like when you feel some heat, you can immediately understand there is some fire. And if there is light, you can immediately understand there is fire. The light you can see, and heat we can feel. By feeling or seeing, we can understand the existence of God everywhere. This is intelligence, not that... They challenge foolishly, "I can... Can you show me God? I cannot see God, therefore..." No. Why you cannot see God? You can feel the presence of God by heat and light. Light. Light you can see. When there is sunshine, you can see both the light and the heat. So as it is confirmed in the Vedic literature, we should appreciate the presence of God everywhere by His different energies, exactly like heat and light.

So this energy of Krṣṇa... He has got multi-energies.

na tasya karyaṁ karaṇaṁ ca vidyate
na tat-samas cabhyadhikas ca drsyate
parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate
svabhaviki jĂąana-bala-kriya ca
[Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]

This is Vedic injunction. Na tasya karyaṁ karaṇaṁ ca vidyate. Krṣṇa... Here He is playing on His flute, but His energies are working. Just like a big man, a big business magnate: he is sitting in his room, but his energy is working—big, big factory is going on; large amount of profit is coming automatically. So if it is possible for ordinary human being that he is sitting in one place, and still, things are going on by management of his energy, so why not Krṣṇa, the Supreme Lord? He is sitting in one place. Goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutaḥ; [Bs. 5.37]. Ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhiḥ;, goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutaḥ;. He is situated in His planet, Goloka Vrndavana; still His energies are going on. The material energy is working, this material world. Krṣṇa says, mayadhyakṣeṇa prakrtiḥ; suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10]. Under His vigilance all the laws of material nature is going on. Exactly in time the sun is rising, the moon is rising. Everything is going on minutely, very nicely. Parasya saktiḥ;. Svabhaviki jñana-bala-kriya ca. It is going so nicely that Krṣṇa hasn't got to learn how to do it. The machine is so perfect, it is going on perfectly. The flower is coming by His energy. Puṇyo gandhaḥ; prthivyaṁ ca. The special seed you sow on the ground and a particular type of plant will come out, then rose will come out, a particular flavor will come out. Svabhaviki jñana-bala-kriya ca. We do not see how Krṣṇa's energies are working, but it is working. Don't think that "It is automatically... There was a chunk and there was..." No. Not like that. Everything. But His energy is so perfect. Just like if you want to paint one nice flower, you have to arrange so many things—color, and the brush, and the painting cloth—and you have to apply your energies and... But still, it will not come so perfect. But Krṣṇa's energies are so perfect that we see automatically, but there is supervision of Krṣṇa. There is no question of accident. Everything is supervised. Svabhaviki jñana-bala-kriya ca. We have to do it with our hand, to paint a picture of a nice rose flower, but in the nature the flower is coming out. We see automatically. No. The Krṣṇa's energy is working, there but it is going on so swiftly, so, I mean to say, accurately, that he hasn't got to exact His energy, but it is working automatically. Svabhaviki jñana-bala-kriya ca. Whatever knowledge is required... If you have studied, you will find in the petals of the flower the color, exactly symmetrical, everything. Whatever color is required, it is coming out. We say "automatically." No automatically. Svabhaviki jñana-bala-kriya. The knowledge and the action of Krṣṇa is so perfect, it is coming out.

So Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that krṣṇera svabhavika tina... Svabhavika. Natural, automatically, inconceivable. We cannot conceive that, how it is working. So,

krṣṇera svabhavika tina-sakti-pariṇati
cic-chakti jiva-sakti ara maya-sakti
[Cc. Madhya 20.111]

So there are many energies, and all the energies now aggregated divide into three. One is cit-sakti, the spiritual energy; another is jiva-sakti, the marginal energy. Jiva-sakti... We are marginal energy. We are sakti; we are not saktiman. You must always remember. Jiva-bhutaḥ; maha-baho yayedaṁ dharya... Para prakrti. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtiṁ param, jiva-bhuta. Jiva is para prakrti. It is prakrti. The other day I have already explained. It is not puruṣa. Puruṣa is enjoyer, and prakrti is enjoyed, predominated. Prakrti is predominated and God is predominator. So all these saktis are under, fully under control of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Mayadhyakṣeṇa prakrtiḥ; suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10]. In another place:

srᚣᚭi-sthiti-pralaya-sadhana-saktir eka
chayeva yasya bhuvanani bibharti durga
icchanurupam api yasya ca ceᚣᚭate sa
govindam adi-puruᚣaᚁ tam ahaᚁ bhajami
[Bs. 5.44]

Every sakti is working under His direction. That is Krṣṇa.

krṣṇera svabhavika tina-sakti-pariṇati
cic-chakti jiva-sakti ara maya-sakti
[Cc. Madhya 20.111]

So Caitanya Mahaprabhu... That is the acarya process. Acarya. Acinoti sastra, sastrartha. One who knows the sastra-artha, one who has assimilated the sastrartha, he is acarya. So immediately He is giving evidence from sastra.

viṣṇu-saktiḥ; para prokta
kᚣetrajùakhya tatha para
avidya-karma-saᚁjùanya
trtiya saktir iᚣyate
[Cc. Madhya 6.154]

The... He has divided the whole energy of Krṣṇa into three: cit-sakti, jiva-sakti, and maya-sakti. So the evidence is quoted from sastra, Viṣṇu-Puraṇa, that viṣṇu-saktiḥ; para prokta. Originally the Krṣṇa's energy is cit-sakti. Cit-sakti means spiritual energy, originally. Everything... Just like the sun and the sunshine. The sunshine originally shining, but when it is covered by cloud it is not shining. Within the cloud the real sunshine is there. So this material energy means it is covered by ignorance. This is the difference between spiritual energy and material energy. There is no two energies. Energy is one: viṣṇu-sakti para prokta. That is para, spiritual energy. Kṣetrajñakhya tatha para. Kṣetrajñakhya tatha para. Kṣetrajña means jiva-sakti, one who knows kṣetra and kṣetrajña. This subject matter is there in the Thirteenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gita. Kṣetra-kṣetrajñayor jñanam. So when Arjuna inquired, kṣetra-jñam, Krṣṇa replied, idaṁ sariraṁ kṣetram abhidhiyate: "This body is kṣetra, and one who knows this body..." Just like I say, "It is my body," so I am kṣetrajña.

So here the same kṣetrajña. Kṣetrajñakhya tatha para. The jiva-sakti, that is also spiritual. We are all spiritual, and this is our mistake, that I am thinking "I am this body." This is ignorance. The whole world is going on under this ignorance, that "I am this body," "I am this body." Yasyatma-buddhiḥ; kuṇape tri-dhatuke, sa eva go-kharaḥ; [SB 10.84.13]. If we study this verse, that anyone who is under the conception of..., bodily conception—"I am this body"—then he is no better than the animal. Sa eva go-kharaḥ;. Go means cow, and khara means ass. But this is going on. The whole, the so-called nationalism, nations... So what is this idea of nation? "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am Hindustani," "I am Pakistani." Bodily concept of life. But sastra rejects immediately. If anyone is under the bodily conception of life he is... Sa eva go-kharaḥ;: "He is no better than the animal." This is the challenge of the sastra. So all these so-called nationality, big, big nations, big, big races, caste, and so on, so on, what is their position? The position is that all of them are animals. That's all. This is the verdict of the sastra. Sa eva go-kharaḥ;. Actually this morning we were talking, one dog sees another dog: "Oh, he is coming from another neighborhood." He immediately begins to bark. Immigration department: "Why you are coming in this neighborhood? All right, you can stay here for three days. Then you must have to go out." The dog barking. So we have opened so many branches, but the basic principle is sa eva go-kharaḥ; [SB 10.84.13]. All of them are on the platform of animal consciousness. This is the modern civilization. India was never meant for that. Paṇḍitaḥ; sama-darsinaḥ;. This high culture we have lost now. Paṇḍitaḥ; sama-darsinaḥ;. They never distin... Vidya-vinaya-sampanne brahmaṇe gavi hastini, suni caiva sva-pake... [Bg. 5.18]. Because there was no bodily concept of life. This is India's prerogative. But now we are also developing the bodily concept of life and becoming one of the animals. There is no distinction. If one is in bodily concept of life he is no better than animal. It may be... The dogs are fighting that "I am dog, and you are a different dog." If the man also fights on that same principle, then where is the difference between dog and man?

So this can be understood when actually... Prahlada Maharaja was surprised when his teacher was teaching him how to deal with enemies. He was surprised: "Who is enemy?" So a Vaiṣṇava has no enemy. Vaiṣṇava is friend. Patitanaṁ pavanebhyo.

vaĂącha-kalpatarubhyas ca
krpa-sindhubhya eva ca
patitanaᚁ pavanebhyo
vaiṣṇavebhyo namo namaḥ;

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto all the Vaiṣṇava devotees of the Lord. They can fulfill the desires of everyone, just like desire trees, and they are full of compassion for the fallen souls.]

Vaiṣṇava is meant for delivering the patita, the fallen. Fallen means fallen in the bodily conception of life. That is patita. So patitanaṁ pavanebhyo. Krṣṇa's also business is to deliver these fools and rascals in the bodily concept of life, that dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaraṁ yauvanaṁ jara [Bg. 2.13], first pointing out that "You are not this body." Then knowledge begins. And otherwise, where is knowledge if one is under the bodily concept of life? He has no knowledge. And he is para-sakti. But not apara-sakti. The apara-sakti... What is that apara-sakti? Now, avidya-karma-saṁjña anya trtiya saktir iṣyate. This material world means full of avidya and karma-saṁjña, and working hard like hogs and dogs day and night. This is material world. Material world means based on ignorance that "I am this body," and working day and night like hogs and dogs. That is material life. But human life, although we have got this material life, body, we should not be, I mean to say, bewildered. Ahaṅkara-vimuḍhatma kartaham iti manyate [Bg. 3.27]. Ahaṅkara, taking this body in the concept of ahaṅkara, false ahaṅkara, egotism—"I am Indian," "I am American," "I am this," "I am that"—this is called ahaṅkara. Vimudhatma kartaham iti manyate [Bg. 3.27]. And the whole world is going on.

So if we want to become out of this ignorance, then we have to take to Krṣṇa consciousness. Otherwise there is no possibility. And if we remain in ignorance, then we shall go on committing sinful activities and entangle ourselves in the karma-cakra. Asann api klesada asa dehaḥ; [SB 5.5.4]. If you don't give up this ignorance of bodily concept of life, and if you go on continuing this bodily concept of life, then we are becoming entangled in the laws of nature. Karmaṇa daiva-netreṇa jantor deha upapatti [SB 3.31.1]. And then we'll create another situation for another body. And another body means another period of suffering. This is going on. Asann api klesada asa dehaḥ;, na sadhu manye yato atmano 'yam. Atma is sac-cid-ananda, but on account of being bodily covered, encaged in this body, we are suffering. We are suffering. Therefore Krṣṇa says that taṁs titikṣasva bharata: "Bharata, O the son of Bharata dynasty, Bharata..." So in the material world the suffering is there. But what is that suffering? Matra-sparsas tu kaunteya sitoṣṇa sukha-duḥ;kha-daḥ; [Bg. 2.14]. On account of this body... Now, in this season, we are feeling heat. Therefore the fan is there. But another season the body is the same, but season has changed. Therefore I will have to cover with hot coat and pant. So this feeling of heat and cold is due to this body. And what is this body, this material body? Therefore all our feelings of happiness and distress, it is due to this body. That we do not know. So therefore the best solution of miserable condition of life is to stop this material body. Then you become spiritually situated, and there is no more contradiction.

matra-sparsas tu kaunteya
sitoṣṇa-sukha-duḥ;kha-daḥ;
agamapayino anityaḼ;
taᚁs titikᚣasva bharata
[Bg. 2.14]

That is the advice. We have to do our own business, self-realization. That is tapasya. Tapo divyaṁ putraka yena suddhyet sattvam [SB 5.5.1]. Existence... To purify the existence we have to practice tapasya, not running like cats and dogs here and there. This will not make solution of life. Human life is meant for tapo divyaṁ putraka yena suddhyet sattvaṁ yasmad brahma-saukhyam anantam. This is the process. Mahat-sevaṁ dvaram ahur vimukteḥ; [SB 5.5.2]. If you want to get out of this entanglement of distressed condition of material body, then mahat-sevam: you associate with mahatmas and serve him. Mahat-sevaṁ dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaraṁ yoṣitaṁ saṅgi-saṅgam. And if you want to enjoy senses, then the path of darkness is there: tamo-dvaram. Then you do not know where you are going. Today you are human being. Tomorrow, after this body, you may become a plant or tree or something else. That is tamo-dvaram. We are pushing through darkness. But we should not remain in darkness. Jyotir gamaḥ;, tamasi ma: "Don't remain in darkness. Come to the light."

So we have got so many books of knowledge giving us light, especially in this age, Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam. Take advantage of this and come into the light and make your life successful. This is Krṣṇa consciousness movement.

Thank you very much. (end)

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